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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    I side with Walsh 100%

    We're at 8.2% unemployment in a shrinking Job Market. Military service is always to be honored and respected, but it doesn't mean that's the only thing you can run on. This is the hypocrisy of the left however. They can slime the military, call them murderers and terrorists, cut their pay and benefits, raise the cost of their benefits, and now suddenly they act outraged when one of their political opponents says they should campaign and run on the issues? Doesn't pass the laugh test.
    Please demonstrate where in the link there is EVIDENCE that this is the only thing she is running on.

    And it seems to me that your post is standard conservative hypocrisy. It's OK to support and trust the actions of a vet... as long as that vet is a conservative.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    There is no evidence in the link that the attack is warranted. The information there only discusses Walsh's accusation. Based on that and ONLY that evidence, what makes you decide that the attack was NOT unwarranted?
    Attack? What exactly constitutes an attack to you? He called her a hero but said her militay service alone does not deserve your vote. LOL! Where's the attack?

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    That's not what I said. I have not followed this particular campaign and stated that I don't know everything that has been said. I also stated that my opinion was based on the link provided. And what I read in the link did not appear to me to be an unwarranted attack on a vet. Can you point out the unwarranted attack on Duckworth in the link? And bear in mind that an active duty soldier appearing before a political committee is very limited in responding to character assasination. It's no where near a level playing field.
    Yes, I can easily point to the unwarranted attack on Duckworth. From the article:

    "Now I'm running against a woman who, I mean-- my God-- that's all she talks about," Walsh told an audience in Elk Grove, Ill. "Our true heroes, the men and women who served us, it's the last thing in the world they talk about."
    You can hardly call one of the first women ever to serve as a combat pilot, who gave two limbs in service to her country, and has continued to serve and further work for other veterans anything other than a hero, yet he did. Further, she does talk about other issues. And lastly, most veterans, especially within the first few years of service, it is something they tend to talk alot about. I know I do. And lastly, her service to her country is a big part of what she is running on.

    By the way, your trying to distract the topic by bringing up unrelated events is very telling.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    How is it an "unwarranted attack on a vet" to ask your opponent during an election to debate the actual issues?
    Issues | Tammy Duckworth for Congress

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Attack? What exactly constitutes an attack to you? He called her a hero but said her militay service alone does not deserve your vote. LOL! Where's the attack?
    He did not say that until aftyer he very clearly implied she was not a hero, by offering an imagined trait of hero's(that is not a true trait) then saying she did not have that trait. That admitting she was a hero was actually backtracking for him.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Walsh must have been reading the RNC handbook that says to go after your oppenents best asset, so I'm guessing that Duckworth's military service must be one of hers.


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    It is kinda hard to ignore her sacrifice for our country. But I must say Walsh's timing to demogogue the Duckworth's military service on the Fourth of July no less, doesn't say much for his intelligence or credibility. The people Walsh is talking to don't look very convinced or amused either......



    At the end of the video he says that those who served don't talk about their service and that is what he admires most about them or something to that effect. But isn't not talking about it one of the reasons so many vets commit suicide? It's like he's saying he doesn't want to know or hear about their sacrifices and he'd prefer they all just shut up about the Iraq War.....

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Please demonstrate where in the link there is EVIDENCE that this is the only thing she is running on.

    And it seems to me that your post is standard conservative hypocrisy. It's OK to support and trust the actions of a vet... as long as that vet is a conservative.
    Where did I claim I don't trust the actions of a vet? Stop engaging in emotional reasoning and objectification.

    It's laughable that any liberal would claim anyone is insulting veterans after you spat upon vets getting off planes after the Vietnam War. I don't see any quotes from Walsh disparaging her service. I don't see a quote here like " Marines killed innocent civilians in cold blood" like Murtha and you leftist shrieked after Haditha (Those Marines were vindicated btw). Spare me your fake outrage.

    This is an election. I went and took a look at her campaign website. There are no details. No real plans. Just the same tired old cliched rhetoric we hear over and over from the left. Invest in Infrastructure. Vague references to targeted "tax credits" which are not tax cuts but actually more Government Spending. It's ambiguous at best with one central theme. More centralized power, more Government, more spending which have proven to not work economically. I separate the politician from the soldier when we have an economy with 8.2% unemployment and the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. We need more substance and less cliche emotional rhetoric. Walsh is right and I'm glad he's not backing down to these typical left wing smear attacks.

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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Attack? What exactly constitutes an attack to you? He called her a hero but said her militay service alone does not deserve your vote. LOL! Where's the attack?
    No, that's NOT what he said. He said that the entire focus of her campaign is her military service, directly saying that voters don't know her positions because that's all she talks about. That's an attack.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Where did I claim I don't trust the actions of a vet? Stop engaging in emotional reasoning and objectification.
    You made a stupid partisan hack assumption. So I countered with one of my own to demonstrate how dumb you sounded. Seems like it worked.

    It's laughable that any liberal would claim anyone is insulting veterans after you spat upon vets getting off planes after the Vietnam War. I don't see any quotes from Walsh disparaging her service. I don't see a quote here like " Marines killed innocent civilians in cold blood" like Murtha and you leftist shrieked after Haditha (Those Marines were vindicated btw). Spare me your fake outrage.
    More stupid rightwing partisan hack nonsense that has zero to do with the topic. Conservative hypocrisy at it's finest.

    This is an election. I went and took a look at her campaign website. There are no details. No real plans. Just the same tired old cliched rhetoric we hear over and over from the left. Invest in Infrastructure. Vague references to targeted "tax credits" which are not tax cuts but actually more Government Spending. It's ambiguous at best with one central theme. More centralized power, more Government, more spending which have proven to not work economically. I separate the politician from the soldier when we have an economy with 8.2% unemployment and the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. We need more substance and less cliche emotional rhetoric. Walsh is right and I'm glad he's not backing down to these typical left wing smear attacks.
    These are positions. It is irrelevant as to whether or not you don't like them. You just proved yourself wrong. Not surprisingly. But mostly, your comments are MORE conservative partisan hack crap. Do you actually discuss issues specific to the topic, or do you just spew right wing talking points regardless of what is being discussed? Please let me know so I know whether or not you are worth my time debating. If it is the latter, which seems to be what you are doing, you are not.
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    Re: Rep. Joe Walsh stands by accusation Tammy Duckworth politicizes her military serv

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Where did I claim I don't trust the actions of a vet? Stop engaging in emotional reasoning and objectification.

    It's laughable that any liberal would claim anyone is insulting veterans after you spat upon vets getting off planes after the Vietnam War.
    Holy irony!

    By the way, I was 10 when Vietnam ended. I was not spitting on any one.

    I don't see any quotes from Walsh disparaging her service. I don't see a quote here like " Marines killed innocent civilians in cold blood" like Murtha and you leftist shrieked after Haditha (Those Marines were vindicated btw). Spare me your fake outrage.
    Wait, you can show where any one in this thread said anything like that? Bet you can't. He did call her not a hero because she talked about her service, which is to me disparaging her very clearly.

    This is an election. I went and took a look at her campaign website. There are no details. No real plans. Just the same tired old cliched rhetoric we hear over and over from the left. Invest in Infrastructure. Vague references to targeted "tax credits" which are not tax cuts but actually more Government Spending. It's ambiguous at best with one central theme. More centralized power, more Government, more spending which have proven to not work economically. I separate the politician from the soldier when we have an economy with 8.2% unemployment and the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. We need more substance and less cliche emotional rhetoric. Walsh is right and I'm glad he's not backing down to these typical left wing smear attacks.
    Her website is as detailed as any one, which is not saying much, but still the truth. You may not like her plans, and that is a perfectly valid reason to go after her. Going after her as not a hero when it would take a huge stretch to claim that, especially from some one who has never served, that is not a valid reason, and makes Walsh a first class asshole.
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