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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I don't know. Not very relevant.
    He didn't shoot anyone. Even murderers often don't get sentences this harsh.
    Your claims that race has nothing to do with it might be taken more seriously if you weren't simultaneously bitching about how "black folks are so ****ed up." The fact that an overt racist like yourself is so quick to throw the book at him just solidifies my view that race is EXACTLY what this is about.
    If there is ANY justice in the Karmic universe, this guy or someone else that your ass and heart bleeds over will get out early and pay you or someone you love a visit. Just to...you know...thank you.

    Oh no...its NOT relevant that his 6 accomplices might also have been black and DIDNT get the larger sentence. Its only racist that HE DID get the sentence. It MUST be racism-NOT what he did.

    Yeah...your values are ****ed...and that is precisely why the black community is so ****ed up. You will hold marches, rallies, and are STILL on about poor Trayvon martin...meanwhile since Trayvon Martin was shot in what may or may not have been a justified shooting, 8 black people a day (thats 1,056 to date for those of you keeping score) die from black on black crimes...and you are ****ing wetting yourself over a repeat offending scumbag. Pathetic.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The fact that you regard exercising one's constitutional right to a fair trial and one's right to avoid self-incrimination as "beating the system" and "wasting taxpayer money" is quite sad.
    Oh did I miss the part where he got a fair trial? Was he sentenced outside the established sentencing guidelines for his conviction?

    Yeah, **** him for being poor. I'm sure there's no correlation at all between race and poverty.
    No **** him for being a worthless peice of **** who went on a string of robberies and threatened the lives of innocent people.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I don't know. Not very relevant.
    Since you are playing the race card it is very relevant.

    He didn't shoot anyone. Even murderers often don't get sentences this harsh.
    Go commit a string of murders, plead not guilty, lose the trial and see if you get anything less than life. This is a rediculous statement.

    Your claims that race has nothing to do with it might be taken more seriously if you weren't simultaneously bitching about how "black folks are so ****ed up." The fact that an overt racist like yourself is so quick to throw the book at him just solidifies my view that race is EXACTLY what this is about.
    Blaming race and expecting this man not to face the penalty for his crimes just because he is black makes you a racist buddy.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Oh did I miss the part where he got a fair trial? Was he sentenced outside the established sentencing guidelines for his conviction?
    You said he wasted taxpayer money and tried to "beat the system" because he didn't have the courtesy to plead guilty. That is ANTITHETICAL to the American system of justice, where we have a constitutional right to a fair trial and to avoid self-incrimination. In case you didn't figure it out, that means no one has to plead guilty to anything.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You said he wasted taxpayer money and tried to "beat the system" because he didn't have the courtesy to plead guilty. That is ANTITHETICAL to the American system of justice, where we have a constitutional right to a fair trial and to avoid self-incrimination. In case you didn't figure it out, that means no one has to plead guilty to anything.
    I didnt say he had to plead guilty. He had a choice. Plead guilty and accept a plea, or go to trial and face longer sentences. He made his choice.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If there is ANY justice in the Karmic universe, this guy or someone else that your ass and heart bleeds over will get out early and pay you or someone you love a visit. Just to...you know...thank you.
    I pity you. You seem like a very miserable person.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I pity you. You seem like a very miserable person.
    I **** on your pity and hope the criminals your ass bleeds over make sure yours and people like you are the first homes they stop at and show their appreciation to you. I also laugh at your pathetic argument of racism. So...dont we both feel all awesome and stuff.

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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Welp, I stopped by DP last week after being gone for a couple months to discuss the health care ruling, got distracted by other threads, and now I'm ready to leave the forum again. That didn't take long.

    Later everyone. Talk to y'all the next time I feel like returning to DP.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It doesn't matter if the judge was trying to garner some votes, or if the judge was white/black/Hispanic/Chinese. If he thinks he can SUCCEED in garnering votes by locking up a black guy for a ridiculous amount of time, then that just proves that our system is racist. And the judge's ethnicity has nothing to do with whether or not he's racially biased against black defendants in his courtroom. Same thing for a jury.
    Umm garnering votes doesn't have to do with race ya know. He very well could have done the same thing with someone of a different race. Including white. The fact that you guys continue to pull the racist card with no evidence that this WAS racially motivated just shows what is wrong with this country. Too many racists claiming that others are racist while ignoring their own racism....or is it just plain stupidity? I haven't figured that part out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    But more importantly, I think you miss the whole point that our entire justice system as a whole is racially biased...this case is merely an example of that problem. Whenever people try to pick at the specifics of individual examples of perceived racial injustice (e.g. the people who defend George Zimmerman) rather than discussing the larger issue , I think it's because they subconsciously identify more with the people being CALLED racist than they do with the victims of racism. And that subconscious identification is, itself, racist.
    The system is not racially biased. The people that enforce it might be racially biased. But the system is inherently non-biased.

    And as far as Z goes...seriously? You brought him into this? That case has NOTHING to do with race period. Z was a volunteer youth mentor for blacks for gods sake. THAT is documented and is not based on hearsay. Unlike his ex's account and his former co-workers account (who also agreed that the "jokes" Z said were not racially motivated btw)

    You just made a perfect example of what I stated above. Thank you.

    I'm quite willing to agree that lots of judges and leo's seem to target blacks more than others and that it is racially motivated, so long as it is talked about in general and people don't try to use individual examples. When it comes to individual accounts, such as the OP, I want evidence before I start condemning anyone. Its that nasty "innocent until proven guilty" shtick ya know? So many people seem to ignore it when they feel that it gets in their way.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yeah, **** him for being poor.
    No, **** him for being a violent criminal that proved he doesn't need to be a part of this society. He victimized many, threatened one mans life, and shot at another. Doesn't matter if he intended to kill or not. He's a violent animal that belongs in a cage.
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