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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    First off...were the other individuals in question also minority? Why is this a 'racist' thing again? His 'partners' in crime all ratted him out as shooting a firearm at the scene of the crime, both at a citizen and a dog. Multiple robberies, illegal possession of and USE with intent to commit grievous bodily harm...so...other than the fact that you are once again looking for a poor innocent victim to pin the cry of racism and injustice upon...what exactly is your problem with this?

    I have to tell you...THIS is why black folk are so ****ed up. Me...as a white guy...if a white guy was in this situation I would have been upset they didnt drop 200 on him. **** him for being a moron, a menace to society, and at least for having ****ty taste in friends. Oh...but you want him BACK in and amongst your community...polluting the **** out of it? Listen...drive around black inner city neighborhoods...check out the impact of that kind of mentality...and then go ahead and keep punching yourself in the balls. You love it.

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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ive lived in florida going on 8 yrs. Ive never seen such wide discrepancies in sentencing...is it racial, Im sure some is...but ive seen lots of white guys get hammered also. Heres what I "THINK" contributes to the disparity.

    Judges are elected here in fla...they have to keep their district electorate happy...so if their district is bloodthirsty I believe the judge will be more inclined to be bloodthirsty to get re elected. I think the disparities differ county to county. I used to want elected judges to get the appointed for life slugs out...then I came here and saw the downside of electing them...I guess you could say at least a majority elects the elected slugs as opposed to one guy appt a slug...cant win can we
    EGADS, won't anyone actually READ the article???

    He was sentenced in FEDERAL COURT. The trial was IN FEDERAL COURT.

    FEDERAL JUDGES ARE NOT ELECTED. Let me explain this... FEDERAL JUDGES ARE APPOINTED. NO FEDERAL JUDGES ARE ELECTED. All your comments about elected judges has exactly no relevance to this case whatsoever. In fact, since this was AN APPOINTED FEDERAL JUDGE IN A FEDERAL COURT, this case seems to DISPROVE your theory of how awful elected judges are.

    Nor do people as they shout racism! racism! racism! really care about learning law or facts of the case. They just want to shout 'racists! racism!" because they fixate on the race of people, which are the people I define as the TRUE racists and real racism.

    Was this armed robberies of banks? What is the sentencing guidelines for the offenses as set by Congress - and do those apply to these cases? What criminal history does he have, if any? What sentences at trial does that appointed federal judge usually give for that offense?

    When someone is a racist fixating on people's race, they generally don't care about facts or law. They just look for reasons to shout "racism! racists!" That's why those words don't mean much to anyone anymore.

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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why is this a 'racist' thing again?
    I am astounded at the number of people who can seriously ask a question like this, and then say things like the following, without the slightest hint of irony or self-awareness:

    I have to tell you...THIS is why black folk are so ****ed up.
    Listen...drive around black inner city neighborhoods...check out the impact of that kind of mentality
    Yes, I can't IMAGINE why anyone would think there is any racist element in play here.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I think 162 years was excessive, but at the same time, let's not forget that he participated not in one armed robbery, but in MANY armed robberies. And if you are armed while robbing, an assumption must be made that you intend to kill someone if you don't get what you want. I am not spilling any tears over this punk.
    Dan he hurt no one, 162 yrs he has no prior record and all the ones that participated and snitched went free...errrr something stinks dude seriously. Im no mamby pamby with criminals...but taking all considerations that sentence is horrifically excessive and is a life sentence.

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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Yeah, even I think that's excessive. Armed robbery, and discharge of a firearm? 25-30 is probably the max he should get. For a first offense, maybe 10-15.
    Scratch that. After reading other articles, his string of armed robberies lasted for two months, he threatened to kill someone by "brandishing his weapon", and also exchanged fire with someone who was defending themselves with a concealed weapon. Toss his ass away for good, first offense or not.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And again my point stands as the 60% is on average.. which means some get less some get much more.. and in this case... That his accomplices were black does not mean they were not given harsher sentences despite "giving up" their compatriot relative to what a white defendant would have gotten.

    However as I stated, it is an average, and considering that this guy got far above the average by several 100%, then the over all sentence is still in the "ball park" average I bet.

    Point is.. he got a harsher sentence because he was black and poor.. pure and simple..
    No he got a harsher sentence because he thought he could beat the system and went to trial and wasted tax payer money rather than accepting the same type of plea. This idiot was convicted of 7 felony counts of armed robbery each of which carried up to 30 years in prison. This wasnt just his first offense. It was his first, second, third, fourth ect. This guy didnt just go rob a store. He went out multiple times.

    Here are the guidelines for Florida.

    Overview of Florida's Sentencing Policies - Florida's Criminal Punishment Code: A Comparative Assessment (2000-2001)

    Nowhere does it state anything to do with race or money. Perhaps if he had more money he would have had a better attorney would have advised him that since the state had 6 other witnesses putting him there he was not going to beat the charge and he shouldn't be a further burden on society. Instead of owning up and accepting a plea like the others he wanted to fight it and got what he deserved. **** this guy. Race didnt have anything to do with it. Show me one example where a white guy had 6 accomplices tesitfy against him while he plead not guilty of a series of robberies and didnt get what equated to life.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I am astounded at the number of people who can seriously ask a question like this, and then say things like the following, without the slightest hint of irony or self-awareness:
    Yes, I can't IMAGINE why anyone would think there is any racist element in play here.
    So lets ask again...were his six accomplices also black? Did his six accomplices rat him out for firing a weapon at people during the commission of multiple robberies? And with your continued insistence on defending the poor downtrodden...ummm...well...MULTIPLE OFFENDER that by his buddies testimony had no problem carrying a weapon and discharging it in the commission of a crime you want to play the race card and blame 'the racist system'. Good lord...you stink with pathetic fail. I hope they let him out early and yours is the first house he visits.

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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    No he got a harsher sentence because he thought he could beat the system and went to trial and wasted tax payer money rather than accepting the same type of plea.
    The fact that you regard exercising one's constitutional right to a fair trial and one's right to avoid self-incrimination as "beating the system" and "wasting taxpayer money" is quite sad.

    Perhaps if he had more money he would have had a better attorney would have advised him that since the state had 6 other witnesses putting him there he was not going to beat the charge and he shouldn't be a further burden on society.
    Yeah, **** him for being poor. I'm sure there's no correlation at all between race and poverty.
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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    This is the son of a judge who waved his gun around in a crowded Casino.

    Anthony Carleo, who admitted today he was the so-called "biker bandit" who robbed the Bellagio on the Las Vegas Strip of some $1.5 million in chips and sped away into the night on a motorcycle, will be heading off to state prison in a few months.

    Carleo, whose armed robbery of the casino craps pit area Dec. 14 brought international headlines, stood meekly this morning before District Judge Michelle Leavitt.
    After the sentencing, Assistant District Attorney Chris Owens told reporters he thought Carleo, 29, would potentially go to prison for a minimum of three years, with a maximum penalty of 36 years for the Bellagio robbery. He is being held in the Clark County Detention Center.

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    re: Insight: Florida man sees "cruel" face of U.S. justice [W:53]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So lets ask again...were his six accomplices also black?
    I don't know. Not very relevant.

    Did his six accomplices rat him out for firing a weapon at people during the commission of multiple robberies? And with your continued insistence on defending the poor downtrodden...ummm...well...MULTIPLE OFFENDER that by his buddies testimony had no problem carrying a weapon and discharging it in the commission of a crime
    He didn't shoot anyone. Even murderers often don't get sentences this harsh.

    you want to play the race card and blame 'the racist system'. Good lord...you stink with pathetic fail.
    Your claims that race has nothing to do with it might be taken more seriously if you weren't simultaneously bitching about how "black folks are so ****ed up." The fact that an overt racist like yourself is so quick to throw the book at him just solidifies my view that race is EXACTLY what this is about.
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