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    Re: Michigan's GOP governor vetoes voter suppression bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    This is funny in a very sad way when the poster doesn't realise that his example of "voter fraud" is nothing of the sort. It is the stealing of an election - maybe - by the polling place workers which by any understanding is not what one could call "voter fraud". Voter ID cards make zero difference if the election workers where you vote can change your vote electronically or "lose" the ballot box in which your paper vote is stored.

    I would hope the 'journalists' at FoxNews know the difference but their headline does favour the current Republican Party propaganda even though the story tells the actual story.
    It is funny in a sadder way than you realize.

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    Re: Michigan's GOP governor vetoes voter suppression bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Interesting…and what was the political persuasion of those AG’s since the Supreme Court upheld the LAW?
    Frank Kelley, a democrat, was the AG of Michigan for 37 years. He declared the states voter ID passed in 1996 unconstitutional. He left office in 1999. In 2007 The Republican led state senate asked the state's Supreme Court for a ruling on the law. They declared it constitutional and it has been enforced since then.

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    Re: Michigan's GOP governor vetoes voter suppression bills

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Frank Kelley, a democrat, was the AG of Michigan for 37 years. He declared the states voter ID passed in 1996 unconstitutional. He left office in 1999. In 2007 The Republican led state senate asked the state's Supreme Court for a ruling on the law. They declared it constitutional and it has been enforced since then.
    In Michigan a voter who shows up at the polls without an ID can still vote a regular ballot by signing an affidavit.
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    Re: Michigan's GOP governor vetoes voter suppression bills

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    In Michigan a voter who shows up at the polls without an ID can still vote a regular ballot by signing an affidavit.
    True enough but voting this way is equal. More scrutiny is available for voting without an ID:

    However, an elector being allowed to vote without the identification required under this subsection is subject to challenge as provided in section 727.

    Michigan Legislature - Section 168.523

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