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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Obama is Bush, "make no mistake".


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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    stories from Syria and Libya,


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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post

    I stopped being a Republican in 2004 when it became apparent that President Bush had thrown away an empire for nothing.
    Bush did what was necessary. He made tough decisions and he made the correct decisions.

    I'm sick of liberal apologists who think we should let middle east nations decide what the price of oil will be.

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    "A couple weeks ago, I wrote about how the outlets of the mainstream press in the US are rapidly losing readers and relevancy. These rags of wasted ink and paper, these “news” programs with screaming talk heads, are not “liberal” or “conservative.” They are nothing more than mouthpieces for the centralized whims of the DC war machine."


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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Bush did what was necessary. He made tough decisions and he made the correct decisions.

    I'm sick of liberal apologists who think we should let middle east nations decide what the price of oil will be.

    Don't you have any respect for Democracy?

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Bush did what was necessary. He made tough decisions and he made the correct decisions.

    I'm sick of liberal apologists who think we should let middle east nations decide what the price of oil will be.
    I thought conservatives believed in free-market economics. The oil producing nations of the middle east aren't the only suppliers, if they demand too high a price then other suppliers could take more of the market by selling at lower prices BUT if the prices are actually being set by the oil companies then higher prices might be found across the board. Commodity prices are however established in a world wide market place and oil in particular often has its price set more by speculators purchasing futures contracts.

    Anyway, your nausea being induced by "liberal apologists" seems to be more a result of your beliefs than actions in the real world.
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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You have some verifiable, inside info you would like to share with the class?
    I'm guessing not.
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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I think President Obama is being very foolish in escalating his conflict with Iran. The Iranians have offered to resume negotiations. The President is going to get Americans killed. Check this out:


    US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    "The US navy announced the arrival of the USS Abraham Lincoln in the north Arabian Sea and the USS Enterprise, the world's longest naval vessel, in the Gulf of Aden.A senior official in President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's government threatened in January unspecified action if American aircraft carriers returned to the Persian Gulf, saying: "We are not in the habit of warning more than once".

    Although neither ship has entered the Gulf itself, the deployment will be seen as an unmistakable challenge in Tehran ahead of the beginning of negotiations on Saturday, which President Barack Obama has described as Iran's "last chance" to resolve the nuclear impasse through diplomacy.

    In recent weeks Iran has been forced to temper its bellicose rhetoric after American and European Union sanctions against the country's central bank and energy sector began to have serious consequences for its already faltering economy..."


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    Got to make sure that the aircraft carriers are not white elephants to justify the billions of tax payer's money spent.

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I thought conservatives believed in free-market economics. The oil producing nations of the middle east aren't the only suppliers, if they demand too high a price then other suppliers could take more of the market by selling at lower prices BUT if the prices are actually being set by the oil companies then higher prices might be found across the board. Commodity prices are however established in a world wide market place and oil in particular often has its price set more by speculators purchasing futures contracts.
    The glut of oil has flooded the market. Prices are being pushed artificially high by price fixing and U.S. corruption.

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    By the way, me calling out the hypocrisy of the right does not, should not - be taken as me endorsing every action the President has undertaken since his inauguration but the right doesn't do nuance very well so they may not understand such a position.
    LOL! This from a guy who paints all conservatives as being unconcerned about war death, as thinking the President is foreign born, as thinking the President is Muslim, none of which is remotely true about all conservatives. Let those with true nuance demonstrate it.

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