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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No.

    Enlisted men and women signing up are enlisting. Officers are Commissioned. If you are going to speak from a position of authority on military matters you should A) know what you are talking about and B) try it on someone that hasn't served in the military.

    He "could have received a bye"? You mean like his father that got 7 "byes"? The National Guard is reserves.
    Or Mitt Romney, who fought the Vietnam War by patrolling the dangerous streets of Paris asking people if they wanted to be Mormons.
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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    The CIA started this whole Syria conflict. Can no one reign in this out of control war machine?

    I was disappointed Paul endorsed Romney when he bowed out of the race.

    How can someone speaking out against the military industrial complex, do that?

    Does that mean Paul was stage playing the whole time ...?

    I think the next candidate must go farther than reduce the Pentagon by half but also promise to shut down the CIA. The criminal CIA represents a government within a government and usurps power from the lawmakers and hijacks the press/ silences dissent/ and disrupts legal demonstrations, in short the whole process.

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    January 20, 2009 was the date the leftist anti-war movement went silent. That's why President Obama has a free hand to wage unrestricted drone war against civilians in Pakistan, Somalia and Kenya. He's even building new drone bases in the Indian Ocean so he can reach out and touch sleeping villagers any where in the vicinity of the Indian Ocean. Obama doesn't take prisoners. He kills them dead along with their families and anyone else who happens by. He even launches drone strikes against people who he doesn't identify. If they make the wrong move he kills them dead.

    Now President Obama has built up US forces around Iran in order to intimidate that country. He's goig to get America into another war. That's a very foolish thing to do.
    Bull****. If a president with an "R" by his name did it you would be showering him with praises.

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    The CIA started this whole Syria conflict. Can no one reign in this out of control war machine?

    I was disappointed Paul endorsed Romney when he bowed out of the race.

    How can someone speaking out against the military industrial complex, do that?

    Does that mean Paul was stage playing the whole time ...?

    I think the next candidate must go farther than reduce the Pentagon by half but also promise to shut down the CIA. The criminal CIA represents a government within a government and usurps power from the lawmakers and hijacks the press/ silences dissent/ and disrupts legal demonstrations, in short the whole process.
    You have some verifiable, inside info you would like to share with the class?

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Bull****. If a president with an "R" by his name did it you would be showering him with praises.
    Compose yourself. The conclusion expressed in your post is interesting. But naked conclusions are not persuasive if they aren't backed up by articulation of the rationale for the conclusion.

    Collect your thoughts and post the reasons why you arrived at the conclusion expressed in your post.

    In my opinion your conclusion is probably mistaken because it is likely that your fundamental premise about me is erroneous. In any event you have my attention and this is an issue I am prepared to discuss at length.

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    The Carriers have been in the Operating Zone for months. It's not a new development. As the Worlds sole Blue Water Navy, controlling trade routes is critical to sustaining our entire way of life. Read Petro Dollar Warfare by William Clark to get a strong perspective.

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by CivicVirtue View Post
    The Carriers have been in the Operating Zone for months. It's not a new development. As the Worlds sole Blue Water Navy, controlling trade routes is critical to sustaining our entire way of life. Read Petro Dollar Warfare by William Clark to get a strong perspective.
    We are not the worlds sole blue water Navy.
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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Los Angeles Times is reporting today that "The Navy is rushing dozens of unmanned underwater craft to the Persian Gulf to help detect and destroy mines in a major military buildup aimed at preventing Iran from closing the strategic Strait of Hormuz in the event of a crisis...The U.S. already has sent two aircraft carriers and a squadron of F-22 fighters to the Persian Gulf, and is keeping two U.S. army brigades in Kuwait. Though much of the buildup has been publicly acknowledged by the Pentagon, the deployment of the submersibles has not been publicly disclosed, apparently to avoid alerting Iran.


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    U.S. moving submersibles to Persian Gulf to oppose Iran - latimes.com

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    The CIA started this whole Syria conflict. Can no one reign in this out of control war machine?

    I was disappointed Paul endorsed Romney when he bowed out of the race.

    How can someone speaking out against the military industrial complex, do that?

    Does that mean Paul was stage playing the whole time ...?

    I think the next candidate must go farther than reduce the Pentagon by half but also promise to shut down the CIA. The criminal CIA represents a government within a government and usurps power from the lawmakers and hijacks the press/ silences dissent/ and disrupts legal demonstrations, in short the whole process.
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You have some verifiable, inside info you would like to share with the class?
    go to Advanced Search, enter author, Kane/ keyword, Syria

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    Re: US flexes muscles as it sends aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Compose yourself. The conclusion expressed in your post is interesting. But naked conclusions are not persuasive if they aren't backed up by articulation of the rationale for the conclusion.

    Collect your thoughts and post the reasons why you arrived at the conclusion expressed in your post.

    In my opinion your conclusion is probably mistaken because it is likely that your fundamental premise about me is erroneous. In any event you have my attention and this is an issue I am prepared to discuss at length.
    My apologies for my composure. It's just that, I had read your post and I laughed so hard I blew Mountain Dew out my nose. I should have put more thought into it.

    I would welcome further debate as it is always a pleasure to dialog with you, however, I must say upfront I am only coming from a place of opinion and fare better in my debates when I have facts and figures readibly accessible. Sometimes it's hard to find a link for just common sense.

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