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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Cut the Navy down to size and it won't cost much money. Everybody wins that way. No need for alternative energy for the Navy. The savings can be used to pay for Obamacare.

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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Now I just need to get to the Pacific Trash Gyre. Melt enough of it together to make an island. Set up a factory turning plastic bottles into fleece clothing.

    Then declare myself a nation.

    Trashlandia!

    Recycletopia!

    Dumb as that sounds, it actually might work.

    And as long as people keep throwing their garbage in the Pacific, the free resources will continue to deliver themselves to my facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Nice. You would push our American sons and daughters into deadly combat because you can't be bothered to think and innovate? How about YOU lead that charge into enemy machine gun nests?
    What machinegun nests? Without oil money to buy weapons, the Arabs will be fighting us with sticks and stones.

    It was American innovation that gave oil all its value, started in 1859. Why did we give away our intellectual property to savages who would never have become intelligent enough to develop it on their own? Like others with unearned gifts, they have cheated us blind on oil worth only about $5 a barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    ****ing with their **** is why they're our enemies in the first place.
    Believing in childish dreams about equality among nations leads to national suicide. If they don't earn their wealth, why should we recognize their ownership of it? Such a belief, that luck is worth more than merit, has led to an American society content to be run by birth-lottery winners (Sperm Bingo) and a world run by the same kind of parasites. Believing in the required self-hating view of property rights that justifies the jihadists' price-gouging on oil, which costs OPEC only about $5 a barrel, makes us real patsies who accept everything we are told.
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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    What machinegun nests? Without oil money to buy weapons, the Arabs will be fighting us with sticks and stones.
    To steal another nation's oil NOW, you need to fight through the weapons they have NOW. Try to keep up.

    It's more efficient to make business deals than conquering whole nations. Better yet, rather than fight expensive wars for resources, use current developing technology to not need those resources in the first place, and create tons of badly needed American jobs to boot.
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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Except it's NOT "green" fuel. It is "world starvation" fuel. Crops and crop land diverted to fuel reduces world food supplies and increases food costs - meaning starvation for the desperately poor of the world. And it is myth that biofuels do not produce Co2.

    Another question is whether then Navy needs to use 2% of the entire national fuel consumption or, according to the article, 264,000,000 gallons of oil each year. Since we are in NO Naval wars why the massive fuel usage?

    This all is an example of lack of financial oversight and prudence within the military. What about not stop making soldiers pay for the cleaning of their own uniforms instead? Why does the military have unlimited amounts of money except with it comes to military personnel? Then the military is financially broke.

    There is no defending $26 a gallon for bulk fuel. Trace it all the way and it will just be more political graft and payola disguised as a "green" agenda.
    Speaking of politcal graft and payola, why has the House added billions to the defense budget for projects that the Defense Dept. neither wants nor needs?
    It appears that some would rather worry about an experiment with alternate energy costing a few million than $3000 million that the other side is spending for the benefit of their contributors.

    As the clock ticks ever closer to the triggering of the sequestration time bomb — you know, the massive cuts to government spending that are set to take effect next January unless Congress moves to eliminate them — lawmakers are still forcing more cash on the Pentagon than it says it needs during this time of belt-tightening.Yup, the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) is set to add nearly $3 billion to the Pentagon’s weapons buying accounts in its version — called a markup — of the fiscal year 2013 defense authorization bill that’s set to be unveiled tomorrow. And yes, the HASC’s bill along with a similar effort by the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, is meant to bar the Air Force from retiring its fleet of C-27J Spartan airlifters. The appropriators also moved to keep the service flying its Block 30 Global Hawk spy drones that Air Force brass want to retire in favor of keeping U-2 spylanes.
    Read more: http://defensetech.org/2012/05/08/co...#ixzz1zmO5YfRL
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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Don't know why the bio-fuel was $26 a gallon, but I can think of several reasons:
    1) where it was delivered to (delivery costs may be included)
    2) Military Industrial Complex contracting (the old $1000 toilet seat move)
    3) it wasn't bio-diesel being provided, but bio-jet fuel. There's a radical difference as the bio-jet fuel is experimental and not yet formulated in bulk.

    And just a nit to pick, but the price per gallon of DIESEL fuel at the pump is not $3.60. That's the price of a gallon of gasoline (or close), carriers do not run on gasoline. Bio-diesel costs about $1.50 to produce, though most of it is sold as a blend with traditional petro-diesel (typically B80 - 80% bio-diesel). It's blended because bio-diesel doesn't take the cold weather like petro-diesel does - it gels.
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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Believing in childish dreams about equality among nations leads to national suicide. If they don't earn their wealth, why should we recognize their ownership of it? Such a belief, that luck is worth more than merit, has led to an American society content to be run by birth-lottery winners (Sperm Bingo) and a world run by the same kind of parasites. Believing in the required self-hating view of property rights that justifies the jihadists' price-gouging on oil, which costs OPEC only about $5 a barrel, makes us real patsies who accept everything we are told.
    Of course the oil companies are not at all complicit in the thievery. How much do they charge us for our OWN oil?

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    New technology implementation costs more initially. News at 11.
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    Re: $26 a gallon?! Navy's 'Green Fleet' meets stiff headwinds

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That's just ****en stupid paying that much for fuel when traditional fuel is nowhere near that much. Its like paying ten bucks for a common screw.
    They do that too. When are people ever going to figure out that the government pays ridiculously high prices for things so that the selected government friends get seriously wealthy from it. the excuse its green must mean the money. I am pretty sure that is what green energy really means, just a lot of green being paid to some friends.

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