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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

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    Conspiring with the drivers going past her on the road while speeding.
    No she's not. You are implying she got in with all the drivers on the road and worked out an agreement that they should speed and she'd look out for them. You can't actually be charged with conspiring if you haven't conspired whatsoever. And seeing how she didn't orchestrate anything with anyone else, she isn't responsible for nor tied to the actions of all the drivers on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    YES, I do believe that as well.
    Sorry man, I can't go along with you on that one. If you want to go that path, I say people who warn of speed traps are saving the life of the law enforcement officer that is tasked with that dangerous situation.
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    You apparently believe in force. You apparently believe that the state knows better than individuals what is best for themselves. You apparently believe that man is stupid and helpless and needs to be protected and guided by government even though that very government is comprised of men.
    In my experience the vast majority of people do not have the ability or skill to be allowed to make important decisions. That's why I'm also not a fan of Democracy or the Republic system.

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry man, I can't go along with you on that one. If you want to go that path, I say people who warn of speed traps are saving the life of the law enforcement officer that is tasked with that dangerous situation.
    We are going to disagree on this. ANY act which impedes the ability of LEOs to catch criminals or assists the criminals in avoiding being caught should be a crime in my mind; punishable the same as the crime assisted.

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We are going to disagree on this. ANY act which impedes the ability of LEOs to catch criminals or assists the criminals in avoiding being caught should be a crime in my mind; punishable the same as the crime assisted.

    Criminals is a little strong for someone who violates a misdemeanor statute. Also, those LEO's out there doing their jobs have a tough one for sure, but these traps are revenue grabs pure and simple.
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Criminals is a little strong for someone who violates a misdemeanor statute. Also, those LEO's out there doing their jobs have a tough one for sure, but these traps are revenue grabs pure and simple.
    That's exactly what they are and there should never be any fiscal incentive to do negative. If punishment is incentivized, then there will be more punishment. If you have fiscal incentive to do negative, the negative will grow. Like private prison systems' massively growing incarceration rates for instance.
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That's exactly what they are and there should never be any fiscal incentive to do negative. If punishment is incentivized, then there will be more punishment. If you have fiscal incentive to do negative, the negative will grow. Like private prison systems' massively growing incarceration rates for instance.
    That's exactly what they are -- and exactly what they need to be. Incentive to do negative? A DUI charge is incentive to do it again? What??
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's exactly what they are -- and exactly what they need to be. Incentive to do negative? A DUI charge is incentive to do it again? What??
    Jail is punishment for crime. There is not a fiscal incentive to jail people. It's a fiscal drain to jail people... unless of course it's a private prison system where there is a fiscal incentive to jail more people (for that private company running it but even a larger drain on the taxpayer).

    If you think that fining is a just punishment, then there needs to be a system where those that do the fining can never benefit in any way from the fines they invoke on others. Dole out the fines on a punishment basis and not on a fiscal gain basis for themselves.
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Criminals is a little strong for someone who violates a misdemeanor statute. Also, those LEO's out there doing their jobs have a tough one for sure, but these traps are revenue grabs pure and simple.
    Trap. Revenue Grab. Whatever you want to call it. It's still the law.

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We are going to disagree on this. ANY act which impedes the ability of LEOs to catch criminals or assists the criminals in avoiding being caught should be a crime in my mind; punishable the same as the crime assisted.
    So driving over the speed limit is a criminal offense?

    I didn't know cops detained you for 12 hours for driving over the speed limit. I thought they just issued a citation and let you go.
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