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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    This should be protected under freedom of speech. Personally, I think speed traps should be illegal.
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's not about slavery. It's about people getting punished when they choose to break the law. If you choose to speed, you run the risk of getting caught. It's a risk/reward thing.
    My childish bout of verbal bashing was in reference to your automatic acceptance of the law as legitimate. What ought to be considered in this discussion is the legitimacy of the speed limit itself. There is an exhaustive amount of research available to us which ought to allow us to draw the conclusion that speed limits are entirely arbitrary and have virtually no relationship with safety.

    The fact is, a 55 mph speed limit might be perfectly reasonable for some people, driving some vehicles, in some traffic conditions, with some environmental conditions. But a single speed limit will never adequately address the safety risks of all drivers and conditions. This leads us to the inescapable conclusion that speed limits are truly arbitrary.

    Since speed limits are completely arbitrary, it ought to be up to each individual to determine whether or not the speed at which he/she is driving is an acceptably safe speed for conditions. Should the driver err and cause an accident, he/she is at fault and will be liable for damages. If not, the safety police have no moral or legitimate authority to fine them for something which might occur.

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This should be protected under freedom of speech. Personally, I think speed traps should be illegal.
    You don't like free speech?

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's not really a liberal vs conservative issue. It crosses over. Both for and against folks cross over. I know liberals and conservatives opposed to it. I know liberals and conservatives for it. For instance, in AZ when I lived there, it was the conservatives that wanted it in place because it was a way to raise revenue without raising taxes.

    Absolutely. Like I said at the start, I support law enforcement, but I am also a truck driver that has to put up with far more than the average car driver has to. I think auto drivers should have to deal with the same regulations I do.
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    You don't like free speech?
    I do. I'm saying that flashing one's lights and holding a sign to warn of cops is protected under free speech. I also think that speed traps should be illegal.
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm on the side of the cops in this. So far as I'm concerned both this and the headlight flashing should be charged as conspiracy crimes.
    Conspiracy is alluding to conspiring to wrong-doing. So... what are they doing wrong?
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    TNAR, if you don't like the law, don't follow it. Just don't whine when you get punished for breaking it or people get punished for helping you break it. That or work to change it; but until it is changed it's the law and you break it at your own risk.

    Then again I'd be in favor of adding regulators to all US automobiles and making tampering with them punishable by permanent loss of you license.

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Conspiracy is alluding to conspiring to wrong-doing. So... what are they doing wrong?
    They are providing the same service a look-out does for a bank robbery.

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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    They are providing the same service a look-out does for a bank robbery.
    I know this isn't the case, but what if it was for cop safety? Many states have move-over laws for cops and emergency vehicles. What if they want to alert people beforehand so that they can adjust their lane before things become congested due to people moving over all at once? Should that be illegal too?
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    Re: Pedestrian thrown in jail for 12 hours for holding up sign warning drivers about

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I know this isn't the case, but what if it was for cop safety? Many states have move-over laws for cops and emergency vehicles. What if they want to alert people beforehand so that they can adjust their lane before things become congested due to people moving over all at once? Should that be illegal too?
    Totally different situation. Pretty unrealistic since we can put up five miles worth of "Right Lane Closed" signs and nobody moves over until the last hundred yards before the work zone.

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