Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2[W:1]
Obamacare will go on forever. It won't end in ten years or twelve years. The cost overrun will go on year after year after year.
There is no cost overrun, at least not yet. The ACA's financial figures look slightly better today than they did when the CBO first scored it in 2010.
Democrats will have to have conservative cooperation. But conservatives don't believe Democrats act in good faith. That's a problem for the left isn't it?
You are the one trying to foment racial resentment, flat-out lying about policies, and telling me that "I need to convince conservatives" instead of actually refuting the substantive points I made (a basic acknowledgement that you know I'm right and simply don't care). So you aren't exactly in a good position to accuse anyone else of not acting in good faith.
With all due respect, and admiration for your tenacity, you are honestly mistaken. You base your opinion on the dissembling of others.
No I'm not. I base it on the CBO's latest report, from March 13, 2012:
"CBO and JCT now estimate that the insurance coverage provisions of the ACA will have a net cost of just under $1.1 trillion over the 2012-2021 period-about $50 billion less than the agencies' March 2011 estimate for that 10-year period."
CBO | CBO Releases Updated Estimates for the Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act
Are you saying that the CBO didn't report earlier this year that Obamacare will cost $1.76 trillion?
This is because we're two years closer to implementation than we were when the bill was passed. Of course 2010-2019 isn't going to cost as much as 2012-2021. The main provisions don't take effect until 2014. This has been known from the beginning and is hardly some surprising new cost overrun. The CBO estimates that the ACA will produce a surplus every year until 2014, dip into a slight deficit in 2014-2015, and then produce a surplus again from 2016 onward.
Can you name an entitlement program that has ever come in under budget or at budget over a period of twenty years?
Medicare Part D seems to be staying within its budget so far...although that's more due to external factors (e.g. generic drugs, rate of new drug development, etc) than government policy. In fact, the CBO has historically overestimated the cost of health care spending:
New Research Finds Congressional Budget Office Has Underestimated Savings and Overestimated Costs from Health Policy Changes - The Commonwealth Fund
There are a lot of sick old folks who are going to overwhelm America during the next twenty years. The way to break Obamacare is to have it harm the economy and screw up people's lives. Those are the rules of the game.
At least you acknowledge your goals are to break Obamacare, harm the economy, and screw up people's lives, so that you can win the game you're playing. What was that about Democrats not negotiating in good faith again?
Do you think conservatives are going to believe you or me. It's only necessary to persuade conservatives in order to monkey wrench Obamacare over the years.
I'm just telling you the facts. You've already made up your mind and aren't interested in an exchange of ideas, or learning the reality...you've basically admitted that you just want to spread misinformation and lies (not to mention scapegoating racial minorities) for political gain. So I really don't see the point of continuing this conversation.
