Albert Di Salvo
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Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2[W:1]
Once the Tea Party came into existence that all became as meaningless as the career of Senator Richard Lugar.
Both sides are totally partisan. In fact the Senate hasn't been this partisan since the administration of James Buchanan. What should be doesn't matter. What does matter is reality.
1. A new heaven and earth must be born before that is possible. You have no idea how deeply conservatives are aroused.
2. Neither side believes in the good faith of the other side. When you don't believe that the other party to a negotiation has acted in good faith you set them up. You don't work with them.
3. Only if George Bush becomes president again.
4. Silencing half the population is a recipe for disaster. History warns against such an approach.
Are you denying that Republicans were still touting an individual mandate as a potential source of compromise as late as summer 2009? Are you gonna make me find the quotes to prove you wrong?
Once the Tea Party came into existence that all became as meaningless as the career of Senator Richard Lugar.
Nope. They (along with every other Republican who had previously advocated a health care system which looked a lot like PPACA) decided to put raw partisanship ahead of their country, and did an about-face.
Both sides are totally partisan. In fact the Senate hasn't been this partisan since the administration of James Buchanan. What should be doesn't matter. What does matter is reality.
Agreed.
A few possibilities:
1. Perhaps another election will drive out all of the crazies who have taken over the GOP in the last three years, and the party will go back to the sane (if inadequate) health care positions they held in the late 2000s. And therefore compromise will be possible.
2. Perhaps some of those problems will be fixable in exactly the way Republicans want to fix them anyway, and so they'll eagerly vote to fix them.
3. Perhaps the Democrats will indeed get a commanding majority in the Senate, the House, and the White House.
4. Perhaps the filibuster will be eliminated and they'll only need 50 votes in the Senate.
1. A new heaven and earth must be born before that is possible. You have no idea how deeply conservatives are aroused.
2. Neither side believes in the good faith of the other side. When you don't believe that the other party to a negotiation has acted in good faith you set them up. You don't work with them.
3. Only if George Bush becomes president again.
4. Silencing half the population is a recipe for disaster. History warns against such an approach.