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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not even close. The commerce clause issue was limited to this unique case, or other attempts to "create commerce" and then regulate it under the commerce clause. That doesn't implicate existing commerce clause precedent at all.
    Roberts has basically denied liberals Wickard VS Filborn for every potential new entitlement plan they can dream up in the future.

    Good luck ever scamming the American Public like you did with Obamacare ever again

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    The transfer of $500 billion from the Medicare program serving seniors to Obamacare should become a major issue.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Roberts has basically denied liberals Wickard VS Filborn for every potential new entitlement plan they can dream up in the future.

    Good luck ever scamming the American Public like you did with Obamacare ever again
    That would be untrue. Roberts opinion was that the government could not use the commerce clause to force commerce, which does not invalidate Wickard V Filborn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That would be untrue. Roberts opinion was that the government could not use the commerce clause to force commerce, which does not invalidate Wickard V Filborn.
    Too bad. Wickard was another of those New Deal SCOTUS decisions that really ought to be overturned. Personal work for personal use affects interstate commerce, so it can be regulated? WTF? Unfortunately it is activity, whereas Robert's decision was about inactivity.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Kiddo, seriously. You know why your claim is wrong. You must. I've explained it like 10 times in 10 different ways. Just pretending you don't get it is no way to win a debate.

    I realize you must have either gotten the Dems Talking Points feed or you don't know a duck when you see it. As to winning the debate - I've won because I've faced the fact that this is a TAX. You want one more sip of the Kool Aide so's as you can swallow the crap you've been fed by the Dems. All I gotta say is drink up Kiddo, the election is just around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Obama's lawyers argued it was a tax

    Supreme Court said it was a tax

    It's a tax

    This post needs to be repeated. Short and to the point.

    It's a TAX. So how about taking the lipstick off the pig and stop calling it a "penalty".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    This post needs to be repeated. Short and to the point.

    It's a TAX. So how about taking the lipstick off the pig and stop calling it a "penalty".
    It's only a tax if you fail to comply with the law. In other words, it's a tax penalty. Why do you even try to deny what's perfectly obvious?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's only a tax if you fail to comply with the law. In other words, it's a tax penalty. Why do you even try to deny what's perfectly obvious?

    It's a TAX. The Justice Department argued it was a TAX. The Supreme Court Justices bought the argument and called it a TAX.

    Now the Dems are trying to cover this pile and call it a penalty.

    A TAX by anyother name is still a TAX.

    The Dems better get used to the fact that this is a TAX because this issue has real long legs and isn't gonna play will in Peoria come election time.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    It's a TAX. The Justice Department argued it was a TAX. The Supreme Court Justices bought the argument and called it a TAX.

    Now the Dems are trying to cover this pile and call it a penalty.

    A TAX by anyother name is still a TAX.

    The Dems better get used to the fact that this is a TAX because this issue has real long legs and isn't gonna play will in Peoria come election time.
    Long legs? That is hilarious. It's a 100 % avoidable tax. Almost no one is going to be paying the tax. What do you call something that doesn't effect any one? A nonissue.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Long legs? That is hilarious. It's a 100 % avoidable tax. Almost no one is going to be paying the tax. What do you call something that doesn't effect any one? A nonissue.

    Ya know what? I'd love to believe this was true, but you can't "insure" 30-40+ million more people without someone picking up the tab. And history has proved it falls on the middle class to pay the bills.

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