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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    apparently you have never heard of the Independent Panel Advisory Board .
    Which means what? We're not going to misrepresent that agian are we?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Would typing slower give you credibility where you have none? Sure type as slow as you want to.

    Would typing slower prevent you from confusing one topic with a different topic? Sure type as slow as you want to.

    Would typing slower give you knowledge that you fail to demonstrate? Sure type as slow as you want.

    Would typing slower flesh out your silly drive by posts in which you say nothing of actual substance? Sure type as slow as you want.
    Can the personal attacks stop and let's get back to debating ideas.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which means what? We're not going to misrepresent that agian are we?
    I don't think we should misrepresent anything. That being said I do think to have effective change to the health care system there will be necessary rationing if people want to call it that.

    So here goes. I SUPPORT RATIONING.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I don't think we should misrepresent anything. That being said I do think to have effective change to the health care system there will be necessary rationing if people want to call it that.

    So here goes. I SUPPORT RATIONING.
    Whether you supported it or not, this is not rationing. When you're poor, you don't what you want on demand. When you have insurance, you don't get everything you want paid for on demand. All the board does, as your insurance company does and as you do, is measure what treatemnts are effective and which ones they will pay for. No one is "rationed." Like with your insurance company, if you want more, you can buy more. It is dishonest to call this rationing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Is it true, that because the mandate portion has been labeled a "tax" by the Supreme Court, that 51 votes are needed to shoot down this bill?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Feebie View Post
    Is it true, that because the mandate portion has been labeled a "tax" by the Supreme Court, that 51 votes are needed to shoot down this bill?
    The reconciliation process could probably be used to get rid of the mandate, yes. But it would not be sufficient to repeal the entire law.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Whether you supported it or not, this is not rationing. When you're poor, you don't what you want on demand. When you have insurance, you don't get everything you want paid for on demand. All the board does, as your insurance company does and as you do, is measure what treatemnts are effective and which ones they will pay for. No one is "rationed." Like with your insurance company, if you want more, you can buy more. It is dishonest to call this rationing.
    If you care to notice, I did not call it rationing. I said we will need to ration to have a system that works. All rationing is to me is that not everyone will get everything they want.

    I think that this board is so partisan that every word is seen as some sneak attack on their POV, which poisons, rather than encourages healthy debate.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Thank you for your response. Do you support the bill?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I think that this board is so partisan that every word is seen as some sneak attack on their POV, which poisons, rather than encourages healthy debate.
    I agree totally with this...and it seems to be getting worse lately...I guess due to presidential election year???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I agree totally with this...and it seems to be getting worse lately...I guess due to presidential election year???
    Think it is due to two things. Some posters seem to do this as some type of job, not sure if they get paid or are just hyper partisans. Then there are some who have been here for a while, their arguments have been debunked and now they are left with personal attacks as their sole defense. Would appreciate hearing your thoughts.

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