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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Apparently you do not know the meaning of the legal term REQUIRED.
    From what I've seen, it seems to be you having trouble getting that down.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

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    Self-deprecation is a gradual thing...it does not respond well to coercion…today has been a turning point for Haymarket…hopefully..
    I am more than happy to admit if I was not clear about something.

    But something very very good came out of it: the person who believes I am the one who may be ethically challenged admitted that they lied to the state and took advantage of them.

    They provided nothing from me that I have ever lied but they admit to their own sins publicly. It could not have turned out better had I planned it that way.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

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    This has been clarified already. Please go back and review.
    No need to review. Everyone here sees how lost you are.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

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    From what I've seen, it seems to be you having trouble getting that down.
    So you too do not know what the legal term REQUIRED means? Perhaps you two attended the same home school and that lesson was never covered?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you too do not know what the legal term REQUIRED means? Perhaps you two attended the same home school and that lesson was never covered?
    Nah, if they had been home schooled chances are that they would be way too smart to waste large chunks of time in here arguing with progressive useful idiots. They'd be making far better use of their valuable time.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Gallup poll shows lots of support for provisions of the law. Only 31% agree with the GOP position of repealing it.
    None of the independent polls show more support than 33% for the entire bill, whereas the same polls consistently show the opposition to the entire bill running in the high 40s. The rest are on the fence. And those are the optimistic numbers. Most polls show the majority of Americans as opposed to the entire bill.

    You're confusing the polls that check the favorability of certain key provisions of the bill.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do all states require car insurance?




    Those opposing me here should take note that when I posed the question I specially mentioned BOTH insurance as well as meeting financial responsibility with the state.

    from my post #265



    Yes, you drove your parents car and they paid for your coverage to do so. Your driving on the roads in that vehicle with insurance was indeed paid for.
    It's called uninsured driver liability insurance. It's required in my state. They didn't have to pay for me specifically, and I don't have to pay for any specific person not on my insurance who drives my car. I did not have to pay for insurance to drive, which was your original point.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    You want examples of how slavery sacrifices all social freedom? Are you serious?
    No; how conservatives don't believe in social freedom. I think you knew that already.


    Individual freedom can be split into two categories- economic freedom and social freedom. The definition of a conservative is someone who favors lower regulation of economic matters and higher regulation of social matters. The definition of a liberal is someone who favors more regulation of economic matters and less regulation of social matters. Obviously in the US neither side favors either total regulation or zero regulation in either sphere. There are some economic areas where liberals want less regulation and conservatives want more. For example, unions.
    By "less regulation" I assume you mean more laws giving the unions advantages.

    And there are some social issue where conservatives want less regulation and liberals more. For example guns. But, by and large, you find the liberal on the side of more economic regulation and less social regulation most often. For the economic side, you have environmental regulations, minimum wage, health care regulation, etc. For the social side you have the death penalty, abortion, birth control, separation of church and state, the use of torture, domestic spying, etc.
    How is the death penalty a social issue at all? Abortion is matter of the rights of the child, very few conservatives are against birth control. Separation of church and state is often referenced by conservatives to defend the right of religious people to express their beliefs in public venues. The use of torture is, again, not a conservative issue, and WHICH president recently signed the domestic spying bill?


    Allowing slavery is maxed out economic freedom.
    No, allowing slavery is "maxed out" sacrificing the rights of one group to favor another. There's no economic freedom there for the slaves.

    Such a strong concept of property rights that one can own other human beings.
    Again, it's a matter sacrificing the rights of some for the rights of others.

    Government stays totally out of the way of business.
    There's a clear distinction between government enforcing individual rights and hapless regulation.

    On the other hand, it shows zero concern for the social freedom of the individual.
    What economic freedom do slaves enjoy?

    The slaves are totally oppressed. So, it's a very conservative phenomenon.
    The definition of conservative is one who believes in maintaining the principles of a country. In a broader sense, this usually encompasses some level of reactionism (counter to radicalism) and traditionalism. In America, one of the oldest principles we live by is individual freedom of all kinds, along with individual responsibility (a necessary trait of individualist countries).
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Apparently you do not know the meaning of the legal term REQUIRED.
    And apparently you don't know the difference between "registered" and "registering".

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps that is because your reading skills are not up to par?
    And yet I know the difference between "registered" and "registering".
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, if they had been home schooled chances are that they would be way too smart to waste large chunks of time in here arguing with progressive useful idiots. They'd be making far better use of their valuable time.
    You're right, I am wasteing my time with him. I'm done.
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