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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold: Yes you did provide that. One problem though. That is NOT what you argued and you know it. You argued that your state required proof of insurance in order to even get a license. (a bit later you got caught on that lie and tried to switch it to licensing a vehicle). Requiring proof to get licensed and requiring proof that you have insurance when in an accident or stopped by the cops are two completely different things.

    Again you try to move the goal posts. You truely do not have any ethics do you?



    Apparently you mised my previous post were I did show proof.
    So link to it then. All I see from you is a confessed liar giving their own personal anecdotes.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Tsk, tsk.

    This is not even close to what you said. In fact, you incorrectly stated that Michigan requires you to have insurance in order to have a driver's license. This is not true. The importance of the distinction seems to escape you, and that distinction lies squarely in what the state (or in this case Govt) has a right to do.
    it is a distinction WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE.

    That seems to escape you.

    see my post 347
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And you still have not provided any verifiable proof of your claims or allegations as I did. You have only used your own personal life as support and we cannot accept that because you also confess to being a LIAR by your own word on this very topic.

    Here are your own words where you admitted to being a LIAR on this very topic
    Bold: Yes I did. Should I requote it AGAIN for you? This would be the third time of showing proof if I did....up to you.

    Where in that do I admit that I am lying on this subject?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My comments was NOT regarding the details of his reasoning but in the reality that his vote combined with the other four liberal judges decided the case in favor of the Constitutionality of the law.
    That' is not what you said. You stated that 'one of the most conservative justices.sides with the four more liberal judges'. It is my opinion that 'vote combined with' is not equivilent with 'sides with'. Again they voted the way they did based on their own opinions on the ACA AND it was upheld. Does it have to be partisan with you ALWAYS?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So link to it then. All I see from you is a confessed liar giving their own personal anecdotes.
    OMG! You even quoted the post in which I gave you the proof a SECOND TIME and STILL you claim to ask for the proof which you say I did not supply!
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    it is a distinction WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE.

    That seems to escape you.

    see my post 347
    No, it isn't a distinction without a difference. The state of Michigan can not require you to purchase vehicle insurance simply because you have a license, are over the age of 18 and/or are a citizen of Michigan. The distinction is very real.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold: Yes I did. Should I requote it AGAIN for you? This would be the third time of showing proof if I did....up to you.

    Where in that do I admit that I am lying on this subject?
    I gave it to you three times.

    You are an admitted liar on this subject. And what makes it extra special is that earlier today you accused me of being willing to lie to win an argument.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, it isn't a distinction without a difference. The state of Michigan can not require you to purchase vehicle insurance simply because you have a license, are over the age of 18 and/or are a citizen of Michigan. The distinction is very real.
    Here in Michigan, we get a license to drive the car on the roads. And to do that you need a plate on that vehicle and to do that you need insurance.

    What about this is escaping you?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here in Michigan, we get a license to drive the car on the roads. And to do that you need a plate on that vehicle and to do that you need insurance.

    What about this is escaping you?
    Ok, so now it's intentionally obtuse time. None of what you just said has anything to do with the license itself, or the requirements to get it. And it completely ignores that you have every right to abstain from all the above.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I gave it to you three times.

    You are an admitted liar on this subject. And what makes it extra special is that earlier today you accused me of being willing to lie to win an argument.

    A most excellent afternoon!
    No all you did was quote what I said. You never pointed out where in that quote that I am lying on this subject.

    And I noticed you again ignored the fact that I have provided proof that my state does not require proof of insurance to get a car licensed.
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