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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Inaccurate statement. Registered voters (Republican, Democrat, Independent) make up less than half of the US population. Polls on conservatives vs liberal population show that there are nearly twice as many people that identify as conservative over liberal in the US. So, to claim that Democrats are more educated than Republicans (assuming conservatives can loosely be described as Republicans vs liberals as democrats) is innaccurate. There are a lot more conservatives than liberals so it's likely there are just as many well educated Republicans, percentage wise.
    "conservative" and "Republican" aren't the same thing. Oddly, a number of Democrats identify as conservative. More or less all Republicans identify as conservative, most Democrats identify as moderate, but some as conservative and more as liberal. I don't know if people answer those surveys thinking of it like "I live a quiet, conservative lifestyle, so I am conservative" and aren't thinking about the political meaning or what, but that's how it plays out. Obviously you're aware that if the country were overwhelmingly Republican then the Republicans would win all the elections.

    As far as education, last I saw, Republicans were slightly less likely to lack a high school degree than Democrats, but above that line Democrats trounce. For example, a college degree makes a white female voter 18% more likely to vote for a Democrat than females without college degrees. Once you get up to graduate degrees like law, medical, mba, etc, obviously Democrats dominate.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Should I be following this topic?

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    There is a limit in the text indexing of the database, after about 2,000 posts, it creates issues with the responsiveness of the forum. At least that is how it was explained to me. I can't get into further detail because I do not know the specific implementation.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    "conservative" and "Republican" aren't the same thing. Oddly, a number of Democrats identify as conservative. More or less all Republicans identify as conservative, most Democrats identify as moderate, but some as conservative and more as liberal. I don't know if people answer those surveys thinking of it like "I live a quiet, conservative lifestyle, so I am conservative" and aren't thinking about the political meaning or what, but that's how it plays out. Obviously you're aware that if the country were overwhelmingly Republican then the Republicans would win all the elections.
    I realize that, that's why I said "loosley". However, it's far more likely that a conservative leans towards Republicans than towards Democrats.

    As far as education, last I saw, Republicans were slightly less likely to lack a high school degree than Democrats, but above that line Democrats trounce. For example, a college degree makes a white female voter 18% more likely to vote for a Democrat than females without college degrees. Once you get up to graduate degrees like law, medical, mba, etc, obviously Democrats dominate.
    Mega's graph shows this statement to be inaccurate.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Like I said, you already admitted that you're purposely spreading lies and misinformation and encouraging racism. And if that weren't clear, you just admitted again in this post that you're "out to sabotage" rather than actually discuss the subject at hand. So save yourself the trouble of typing out long replies to my posts. You know full well that I'm right on the substance of this issue and you don't even believe what you're arguing, so what's the point? Why should I take you seriously?
    Kandahar. The best weapon is the truth. I haven't lied to YOU. I have no need to do so. I can sabotage your side by telling the truth. Here's an example. The future of your new America is bleak because it has failed for two full generations to make most of its children proficient in math, science, reading and writing. The PISA scores tell us this.

    That means in turn that a significant percentage of the American people don't have the skills necessary to induce investment and the creation of jobs in America. Poor educations have consequences. You know that's true. And noting can be done to change those facts because there are too many vested special interests determined to ensure maintenance of the status quo in American public education. There will be no reform.

    But most of the Sinosphere is moving ahead of America in terms of the quality of education of their citizens. Those well educated folks will be the recipients of future investments and jobs.

    Americans are in the process of beccoming poorer. Chinese are in the process of becoming wealthier.

    China is developing its human and natural resources. America isn't developing those resources.

    American power is waning. Chinese and Indian power is expanding at exponential levels.

    Do you see how these facts can be used agaisnt your side? External reality will soon be ready to end America's vacation from history.

    External reality will suck the life out of the Blue Social and Govt. Model.

    This is all inexorable now. The country has already passed the tipping point now. If I hadn't detached my emotions from America I would live in constant sorrow at this state of affairs.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's not what that graphs shows. That graph shows how many Democrats have degrees.
    Many of those degrees are in subjects which have no economic value. Most liberal arts students will live poorer and meaner lives than their parents because America's power in the world is rapidly diminishing.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Kandahar. The best weapon is the truth. I haven't lied to YOU. I have no need to do so. I can sabotage your side by telling the truth. Here's an example. The future of your new America is bleak because it has failed for two full generations to make most of its children proficient in math, science, reading and writing. The PISA scores tell us this.

    That means in turn that a significant percentage of the American people don't have the skills necessary to induce investment and the creation of jobs in America. Poor educations have consequences. You know that's true. And noting can be done to change those facts because there are too many vested special interests determined to ensure maintenance of the status quo in American public education. There will be no reform.

    But most of the Sinosphere is moving ahead of America in terms of the quality of education of their citizens. Those well educated folks will be the recipients of future investments and jobs.

    Americans are in the process of beccoming poorer. Chinese are in the process of becoming wealthier.

    China is developing its human and natural resources. America isn't developing those resources.

    American power is waning. Chinese and Indian power is expanding at exponential levels.

    Do you see how these facts can be used agaisnt your side? External reality will soon be ready to end America's vacation from history.

    External reality will suck the life out of the Blue Social and Govt. Model.

    This is all inexorable now. The country has already passed the tipping point now. If I hadn't detached my emotions from America I would live in constant sorrow at this state of affairs.
    I'm in this thread to discuss the Affordable Care Act, not China or education or how you're being oppressed by the big scary black man. If you don't have anything substantive to add to the conversation, I'm not interested.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Many of those degrees are in subjects which have no economic value. Most liberal arts students will live poorer and meaner lives than their parents because America's power in the world is rapidly diminishing.
    I have a BS in Liberal Arts (BSL), and I'm doing ok.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I realize that, that's why I said "loosley". However, it's far more likely that a conservative leans towards Republicans than towards Democrats.
    Yeah. But on balance it's about 50/50 Republican/Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Mega's graph shows this statement to be inaccurate.
    That was true in the 2010 elections. Republicans swept. They beat out Democrats in lots of categories Democrats usually win. But it isn't true currently, and it wasn't true in 2008. Obama won people with college degrees by a substantial margin in 2008 and over the last couple years we've seen a major swing with uneducated white Democrats going Republican and educated white Republicans going over to the Democrats. All the anti-education, anti-science, simplistic slogan stuff comes with a cost. They're trying to take uneducated white voters from the Democrats, and they're succeeding, but the cost is losing educated white Republicans to the Democrats.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Many of those degrees are in subjects which have no economic value. Most liberal arts students will live poorer and meaner lives than their parents because America's power in the world is rapidly diminishing.
    MY mother has a Masters Degree from Columbia University.

    I make more money than she ever did.

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