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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Factcheck.org is a biased source to the left

    Nice try though. Obamacare is filled with at least 20 taxes.
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    LOL....and Grover Norquist is the perfect example of fair and balanced.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Better let the mittens campaign in on the news, their still calling it a penalty.

    <A senior adviser to Mitt Romney appeared to undercut a central argument Republicans hope to use between now and the November election against President Obama — that although his signature health care reform law may be constitutional, it amounts to a tax.>

    Romney Campaign Calls Obamacare A Penalty Not A Tax - ABC News
    LOL. They haven't updated his teleprompter yet. ;-)
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    I think the way to deal with Obamacare is to overwhelm it with increased costs for the federal govt. through states opting out. That forces the federal govt. to step in and the federal budget skyrockets.

    Maybe it would have been a better idea for President Obama to have proceeded incrementally.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Did you know that Chief Justice Roberts only agreed with the decision because Obama threatened his children?

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    How could John Roberts side with the liberals? The individual mandate is so clearly unconstitutional – even to a layperson – how could it be?

    Kind of like a Vince Flynn book. Someone got to Roberts. I bet they got to him and told him he has to vote this way or members of his family – kids, wife, parents, whoever – were going to be killed.

    Later this afternoon, it’s going to come out that Roberts was coerced. A Secret Service agent overheard Obama and Axelrod discussing the Roberts blackmail. He managed to get them on tape discussing it. Later this afternoon, the whole story will come out, Roberts will issue his REAL opinion, and Obama and Axelrod will be taken away in handcuffs.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    I think Obamacare is just the beginning of the transformation of America.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That argument only applies to business, and the amount of the taxation to business is small in relation to the total economy along with the fact that the cost to consumers is spread out over a very wide area and time frame. Don't like the tax on tanning salons? Go outside and get a tan. Don't like the hike on cigarettes? Stop smoking. The direct effects of these increases are very small and are more than offset by the cost controls, increases in the size of insurance pools, etc.
    Everything I keep reading only highlights that mostly, if not all, of the cost controlling measures are questionable in their effectiveness. Here's a piece trudy Lieberman did while the bill was still being debated in congress


    Yes, Virginia, There Really Are Cost Controls : CJR

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL....and Grover Norquist is the perfect example of fair and balanced.
    Yahoo news isn't fair and balanced?

    Facts are facts. I'm sorry it hurts your feelings that people are exposing the truth about this fraud of a bill that rammed down the throats of the American Public against their will with shady reconciliation tactics. Next you'll be whining that Obamacare is about "Free HC for all" or some other such emotional nonsense.

    Obamacare is filled with 20 new taxes. It wasn't sold as a massive tax increase. You support passing legislation through deception? It's a bloated Big Government mess that is an absolute disaster. I love how hope and change junkies like you are trying to have the debate again that Obamacare is "deficit neutral", not filled with massive tax increases on the poor and middle class, and isn't a massive grab for more Centralized Power. You lost that debate back in 2010.

    Are you claiming that any source you use is going to be unbiased? Let's stop with the pretentious nonsense. You've been bleeting Ezra Klein and Daily Kos talking points all week.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Did you know that Chief Justice Roberts only agreed with the decision because Obama threatened his children?
    Hey nice hyperbole guy

    Dems wage pressure campaign on Supreme Court over health ruling - The Hill's Healthwatch

    Not surprising to see a Socialist approve of thuggery and intimidation tactics in order to get their way politically.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    You realize that the 2018 cut-in date for the Cadillac tax applies to EVERYONE who has a Cadillac policy, right? Not just union members? Just checking....
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives-Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You realize that the 2018 cut-in date for the Cadillac tax applies to EVERYONE who has a Cadillac policy, right? Not just union members? Just checking....
    don't confuse them with facts
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