The WHOLE POINT of HDHPs is that you place responsibility of cost and risk onto yourself. If you want to argue about people "freeloading," then argue about the people who only pay 10 dollars to see the doctor and waste resources every time they have a cough.
Last edited by Republic Now!; 06-30-12 at 12:05 AM.
One who makes himself a worm cannot complain when tread upon.
"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."
-- Adam Smith
You are supposed to feel bad about that, yes. The goal here needs to be about suppressing the costs of medical care, not flinging ever more costs onto the taxpayer.
Obamacare will go on forever. It won't end in ten years or twelve years. The cost overrun will go on year after year after year. Actually the way to sabotage Obamacare is to cause the budget deficit to explode along with the national debt while the political system remains paralyzed. What entitlement program ever comes in at or under budget. Costs always explode in unforeseeable ways. Democrats will have to have conservative cooperation. But conservatives don't believe Democrats act in good faith. That's a problem for the left isn't it?The CBO looks at the legislation on its own and assesses the ten-year cost of the bill. Want to know why the ten-year cost is higher now than it was when the bill was first past? Because it's two years closer to actually being implemented. This was hardly an unforeseen cost of the bill; that's been part of the cost all along.
With all due respect, and admiration for your tenacity, you are honestly mistaken. You base your opinion on the dissembling of others.In fact, the financial figures are actually slightly BETTER (although within the margin of error) for the ACA than they were at the time it was passed.
Are you saying that the CBO didn't report earlier this year that Obamacare will cost $1.76 trillion? Can you name an entitlement program that has ever come in under budget or at budget over a period of twenty years? There are a lot of sick old folks who are going to overwhelm America during the next twenty years. The way to break Obamacare is to have it harm the economy and screw up people's lives. Those are the rules of the game.The CBO confirmed a few months ago that the ACA is still on track to reduce the deficit. And the most recent estimates I've seen indicate that they initially slightly underestimated the deficit reduction.
Do you think conservatives are going to believe you or me. It's only necessary to persuade conservatives in order to monkey wrench Obamacare over the years.As I already mentioned, only a minor part of the act was passed via budget reconciliation. So even if your misinformation about the ACA increasing the deficit were true, all that Congress would need to do was make sure that those minor provisions passed via reconciliation didn't increase the cost of the deficit, rather than the entire bill.
The meme on the right is that the Democratic Senate victories in Minnesota and Alaska that gave them sixty votes for a brief period of a few months was occasioned by voter fraud in the former case and prosecutorial malfeasance in the latter case. Remember, it's only necessary to persuade conservatives in order to monkey wrench Obamacare's implementation.60 senators did indeed vote for the PPACA, which was signed into law as-is.
You and I will have to agree to disagree.Because that's the agreement that the Senate Democrats made with House Democrats: The House would vote to pass the Senate bill (PPACA) as-is, but in exchange the Senate had to pass the House's minor tweaks via budget reconciliation.