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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

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    I wonder how the Southerners feel about being Cheap-Domestic-Labor pool?

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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    "I feel Good! I knew that would."
    The low cost of living here, and available jobs, mean just everyone who wants to buy a house and raise a family can.
    An added advantage to me, is that the water I fish in, Stays liquid, ALL year round.
    They cant buy a house, since banks dont lend to poor people....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    I wonder how the Southerners feel about being Cheap-Domestic-Labor pool?
    Southerners have always been America's cheap labor pool. Nothing new there. But I can tell you Mississippians are thrilled to be assemembling Toyota Corollas in Blue Springs and American Eurocopter (EADS) Lakotas in Columbus. It's immensely more rewarding than plucking chickens or stuffing sofas. Pays more, too.
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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Boeing has alot of political support here...
    Detroit automakers had a lot of political support here, too, back in the 1980s when they didn't like Japanese automakers invading their market. So they pushed for domestic content legislation that spurred the Japanese and Europeans to build plants largely in right-to-work states in the South. Detroit was unsuccessful in stopping the transplants. Boeing will be unsuccessful, too, if it tries to protect its high-priced union workforce in Everett. It also will have a harder time crowing about a supposed cost advantage as EADS moves to increase its supply chain here. This plant will have ripple effects way beyond the $600 million EADS is investing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Detroit automakers had a lot of political support here, too, back in the 1980s when they didn't like Japanese automakers invading their market. So they pushed for domestic content legislation that spurred the Japanese and Europeans to build plants largely in right-to-work states in the South. Detroit was unsuccessful in stopping the transplants. Boeing will be unsuccessful, too, if it tries to protect its high-priced union workforce in Everett. It also will have a harder time crowing about a supposed cost advantage as EADS moves to increase its supply chain here. This plant will have ripple effects way beyond the $600 million EADS is investing.
    There is a difference.. auto makers employ tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.. air line makers employ in the single digit thousands... barely over 1000 I believe in this US plant. The annual production will be maybe at its peak.. 40 planes.
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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There is a difference.. auto makers employ tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.. air line makers employ in the single digit thousands... barely over 1000 I believe in this US plant. The annual production will be maybe at its peak.. 40 planes.

    When boeing came here to SC, it created an estimated 4,000 jobs. plus the offshoot businesses either directly, or indirectly supplying the plant. These people in the south need jobs, and because we have some of the most able, and ready to work people in the country it works for manufacturing. Just ask BMW, and Michelin.
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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There is a difference.. auto makers employ tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.. air line makers employ in the single digit thousands... barely over 1000 I believe in this US plant. The annual production will be maybe at its peak.. 40 planes.
    A lot depends on how many orders Airbus receives from U.S. airlines for the A320. Supposedly, there are potential orders of 4,000 total single-aisle aircraft. If Airbus gets half of that, that's 2,000 airplanes, enough to ramp up production and keep it running for quite some time. But I think this is part of a larger, strategic move EADS is making to gain U.S. market share. Toyota started with one plant. It now has ten. Airbus will have one line. I can see it adding more at the Alabama facility over time. Otherwise, why is Boeing making noise? And, as already noted, it's not just the direct employment. There's also the ancillary employment that will come from suppliers to Airbus. This is huge for the region. Our local development authority, along with others from the region, will be at the Farnborough International Airshow trying to lure potential suppliers.
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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    They cant buy a house, since banks dont lend to poor people....
    Fortunately they think they're living high on the hog if they have a trailer in which to hang their banjos.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Airbus's U.S. Plan Is a Long-Term Gamble

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    When boeing came here to SC, it created an estimated 4,000 jobs. plus the offshoot businesses either directly, or indirectly supplying the plant. These people in the south need jobs, and because we have some of the most able, and ready to work people in the country it works for manufacturing. Just ask BMW, and Michelin.
    the fact that BMW and others were also given hundreds of millions of dollars from the state government to put their plants there didnt hurt either
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