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    Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    (CBS/AP) WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a federal law making it a crime to lie about receiving the Medal of Honor and other prized military awards, with justices branding the false claim "contemptible" but nonetheless protected by the First Amendment.
    In the aftermath of the Obamacare decision, this one flew under the radar, but it is revealing something very important about the political makeup of the court, and the direction that Chief Justice John Roberts is taking. Although the majority opinion was written by Kennedy, Roberts once again sided with the Liberal faction of the court in striking this law down.

    I'm sorry, but I don't buy "first amendment" here. Those who wear medals that they never earned do not deserve any of the valor that they steal from those who actually fought and possibly died to earn theirs. This decision is flawed, and although this would have passed without Roberts' vote, I am disappointed that Roberts would side with those scumbag liars who steal what isn't theirs.

    And now the question that we are dying to know the answer to - Could John Roberts be the next David Souter?

    Article is here.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In the aftermath of the Obamacare decision, this one flew under the radar, but it is revealing something very important about the political makeup of the court, and the direction that Chief Justice John Roberts is taking. Although the majority opinion was written by Kennedy, Roberts once again sided with the Liberal faction of the court in striking this law down.

    I'm sorry, but I don't by "first amendment" here. Those who wear medals that they never earned do not deserve any of the valor that they steal from those who actually fought and possibly died to earn theirs. This decision is flawed, and although this would have passed without Roberts' vote, I am disappointed that Roberts would side with those scumbag liars who steal what isn't theirs.

    And now the question that we are dying to know the answer to - Could John Roberts be the next David Souter?

    Article is here.
    reprehensible speech - even when stealing valor - is protected speech
    roberts got this one right
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    Goof grief© If lying, cheating and stealing were illegal, 87.3% of the population would be in jail, not to mention 100.5% of the politicians. This is AMERICA, where everything is a scam.

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    No more protected classes, please. and throw out all previous protected classes, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    No more protected classes, please. and throw out all previous protected classes, too.
    gonna flush that Constitution after you finish wiping your ass with it?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In the aftermath of the Obamacare decision, this one flew under the radar, but it is revealing something very important about the political makeup of the court, and the direction that Chief Justice John Roberts is taking. Although the majority opinion was written by Kennedy, Roberts once again sided with the Liberal faction of the court in striking this law down.

    I'm sorry, but I don't buy "first amendment" here. Those who wear medals that they never earned do not deserve any of the valor that they steal from those who actually fought and possibly died to earn theirs. This decision is flawed, and although this would have passed without Roberts' vote, I am disappointed that Roberts would side with those scumbag liars who steal what isn't theirs.

    And now the question that we are dying to know the answer to - Could John Roberts be the next David Souter?

    Article is here.
    They never argued that such people "deserved" the "valor." Only that such activity shouldn't be criminalized.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    gonna flush that Constitution after you finish wiping your ass with it?
    Huh? What the hell are you talking about?

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In the aftermath of the Obamacare decision, this one flew under the radar, but it is revealing something very important about the political makeup of the court, and the direction that Chief Justice John Roberts is taking. Although the majority opinion was written by Kennedy, Roberts once again sided with the Liberal faction of the court in striking this law down.

    I'm sorry, but I don't buy "first amendment" here. Those who wear medals that they never earned do not deserve any of the valor that they steal from those who actually fought and possibly died to earn theirs. This decision is flawed, and although this would have passed without Roberts' vote, I am disappointed that Roberts would side with those scumbag liars who steal what isn't theirs.

    And now the question that we are dying to know the answer to - Could John Roberts be the next David Souter?

    Article is here.
    Of course they don't deserve the valor, but that doesn't mean it should be criminalized. I agree with Roberts that its unconstitutional.

    I wouldn't compare Roberts to Souter yet. Until today, his rulings have had a strong conservative bent to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    reprehensible speech - even when stealing valor - is protected speech
    roberts got this one right
    Reprehensible speech still depends on speech.

    When you allow people to lie, that makes speech unreliable.

    How do we know this ruling was trustworthy? For all we know, it could be a lie.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    I don't much like the ruling in alot of ways, but I understand the logic and agree it was probably the right ruling.
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