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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't much like the ruling in alot of ways, but I understand the logic and agree it was probably the right ruling.
    What logic? They were lying.

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    Proper, and good ruling. Free speech, even when it's vile should always be upheld.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

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    Proper, and good ruling. Free speech, even when it's vile should always be upheld.
    Liar liar pants on fire.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

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    Liar liar pants on fire.
    Lying is protected under the first amendment.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

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    Lying is protected under the first amendment.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Proper, and good ruling. Free speech, even when it's vile should always be upheld.
    Does free speech include "hate speech"? It's illegal in Canada and some European countries. Before long it will be before the SC and it appears now that as Europe goes so goes America.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    this ruling just codifies what we already know... lying is ok in America... it's a virtue.

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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In the aftermath of the Obamacare decision, this one flew under the radar, but it is revealing something very important about the political makeup of the court, and the direction that Chief Justice John Roberts is taking. Although the majority opinion was written by Kennedy, Roberts once again sided with the Liberal faction of the court in striking this law down.

    I'm sorry, but I don't buy "first amendment" here. Those who wear medals that they never earned do not deserve any of the valor that they steal from those who actually fought and possibly died to earn theirs. This decision is flawed, and although this would have passed without Roberts' vote, I am disappointed that Roberts would side with those scumbag liars who steal what isn't theirs.

    And now the question that we are dying to know the answer to - Could John Roberts be the next David Souter?

    Article is here.
    Merely claiming to be something you are not should not be a criminal offense. Now if they if they were claiming to be something they are not to get tv interviews, jobs ,benefits and etc then they should be charged with fraud and the people who were the victims of that fraud should be able to sue.
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Then why is it illegal for me to provide false information on all sorts of forms - for things like school applications, etc.

    If you're lying to gain some sort of financial benefit that otherwise would have gone to someone else I really think that's a serious issue. It's not just free speech when it's intent - it amounts to theft.

    Or is the act of valor thing more broad reaching than that and not just reliant on you claiming funds under false pretenses?
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    Re: Supreme Court strikes down Stolen Valor law

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Lying is protected under the first amendment.
    That's a lie.

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