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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Exactly. The Clinton impeachment was about politics and this is about politics. Anybody who says that this is an attempt to do something genuine and out of concern for the country is either delusional or full of ****. It's the M.O. of the right to do this just like it's the M.O. of the left to drop the ball.

    I think people have been pretty up front about the self serving senators and congresspeople. If they "luck" into a good deed regardless of party then I am all for it.
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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Meh, in my real life, all the same liberals who derided Bush for EP are doing the same for Obama. I haven't seen those patterns of consistency on the right. /shrug
    I haven't seen this in the media, or on DP. Hell, I can't find a liberal that has derided Obama for abusing his EP to cover for the DOJ.
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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I haven't seen this in the media, or on DP. Hell, I can't find a liberal that has derided Obama for abusing his EP to cover for the DOJ.
    Even so, I didn't claim that a bunch of liberals are deriding Obama as they did Bush, but that the same people who derided Bush are doing the same to Obama, in my life. These are people who have a problem with hiding information, period, and in my experience, those people tend to be liberal which is why they are consistent.

    I, personally, don't think either abused EP. I think that both just used to EP to either 1) legitimately protect sensitive information or 2) avoid the consequences of things they'd rather not make public. The thing is that people often don't like it when the other side invokes EP because it means they can't complete the witch hunt they started. That's exactly what I see with this Holder stuff.

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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I think people have been pretty up front about the self serving senators and congresspeople. If they "luck" into a good deed regardless of party then I am all for it.
    I would be all for it if people "lucked" into good deeds with their own party as well, but that doesn't really happen.

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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Even so, I didn't claim that a bunch of liberals are deriding Obama as they did Bush, but that the same people who derided Bush are doing the same to Obama, in my life. These are people who have a problem with hiding information, period, and in my experience, those people tend to be liberal which is why they are consistent.
    Again, I don't see any of this, nor do I see liberals as one's who have a problem with lack of transparency... Show me a gaggle of liberals that have complained about Obama's promises of 'most transparent' being shown to be false and this administration actually being one of the more secretive. I can't find them.

    I, personally, don't think either abused EP. I think that both just used to EP to either 1) legitimately protect sensitive information or 2) avoid the consequences of things they'd rather not make public. The thing is that people often don't like it when the other side invokes EP because it means they can't complete the witch hunt they started. That's exactly what I see with this Holder stuff.
    Yes, that's how you see it because of your own bias. EP came about as a method for the executive branch to keep private internal conversations, sort of as a separation of powers thing (since it's not in the constitution as a 'power'). It has been used by the executive branch, for the executive branch. It was never meant to be used by the executive branch to 'cover' for a different branch. That is what Obama did with his use of it.
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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Hell, I can't find a liberal that has derided Obama for abusing his EP to cover for the DOJ.
    All your comment proves is that you do not read anything.

    right here I did.

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    I'll go on record and say that I think this excuse from Obama is bogus. That's not what I would call a transparent government.
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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Teatards, hmm, thats nice. Anyway, how is it wasting my money when they are supporting, promoting, and legislating what I believe in? I believe AG Holder should have been held in contempt. What citizen in this country can do what he did with no repercussion? The Congress says hand it over, you do it. No matter what party, race, etc you are.
    As you said, Holder played chicken with the House and lost. He refused to comply with subpoenas; he was found in contempt.

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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    All your comment proves is that you do not read anything.
    That would make a total of one. Great job if you speak for all of them, eh?
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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    As you said, Holder played chicken with the House and lost. He refused to comply with subpoenas; he was found in contempt.


    Obviously you don't believe in facts, Holder did comply he has offered up away more documents and has testified more than he should have had to...Issa wanted way more than he was entitled to, quite obviously on a fishing expedition..read the Fortune magazine article.. Educate yourself it's really powerful to know the facts before you post ridiculous stuff on the boards!

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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    That would make a total of one. Great job if you speak for all of them, eh?
    LOL now you are moving the goalposts?

    You said:

    Hell, I can't find a liberal that has derided Obama for abusing his EP to cover for the DOJ.
    you couldn't find A liberal (that means one in case you are having trouble reading again). You were proven wrong. Figures you can't even man up to your mistakes.

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