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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140


    Extended Play, no actually Executive Priviledge.

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    It's not as if the ATF sold guns to criminals, as Issa has implyed, they were powerless to make arrests only survail, there are countless ways to loss a "Tail". Yet Issa didn't call on the Prosicuters who refused to act on the evidence presented. Instead they went after the Top of DOJ, without doing an investigation of those actually involved & working up as high as it went, they (Issa) were only interested in nailing Holder & through him President Obama, two (Black) birds with one stone.

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    There is more evidence of Rep. Issa's wrong doing in even making AG Holder the focus of a hearing about the ATF's failure to follow legally purchused guns to the point where they were smuggled across the border into Mexico. Of course in every investigation one would shoot for the top, by starting at the bottom & working their way up. Issa has shot for the top & losing credibility on the gun walking fron, changed the focus to E.P. & whether his which hunt is justified in asking for papers that would be a violation of Federal Law to make public.
    Issa has publicly stated that Holder (& implyed Obama) allowed guns to walk, in order to impose threats to the second amendment. That conspericy theory, in it's self is grounds for a sanity hearing, IMO.

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    Guns don't kill people, people do. Remember!

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    What about the death of Brian Terry? Don't the Democrats care about his death from a weapon that was part of Fast and Furious?

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    That the state of Arizona allows a teenager with no visible means of support & no police record, to walk into a gun shop & buy 100 weapons at once, doesn't have a thing to do with it? That it is legal is the reason that Arizona is the top supplier of Mexican Drug Cartels. You can't fault ATF for not making arrests for legal transactions, Issa has purposly distorted the facts of the case. His conspericy theory may be self fufilling, as he has managed to draw public attention to the laxity of selling multible gun's at one time. If they (NRA) haven't scared the D's too much.

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    It is a racial matter.

    Holder and the Obama administration clearly have no respect for the lives of those living south of the border.

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    It just doesn't make sense that people who loved the EP when Bush was in office hates it now, seems like nothing but a political witch-hunt.
    Of course no problem with the people who loved to complain and deride EP when Bush was in office that love it and use it now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Of course no problem with the people who loved to complain and deride EP when Bush was in office that love it and use it now...
    Im am curious. At exactly what point does PO become president and responsible for the welfare of the US?

    I dont think its happened yet according to some.
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    Re: House holds holder in contempt [W:140

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It just doesn't make sense that people who loved the EP when Bush was in office hates it now, seems like nothing but a political witch-hunt.
    Exactly. The Clinton impeachment was about politics and this is about politics. Anybody who says that this is an attempt to do something genuine and out of concern for the country is either delusional or full of ****. It's the M.O. of the right to do this just like it's the M.O. of the left to drop the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Of course no problem with the people who loved to complain and deride EP when Bush was in office that love it and use it now...
    Meh, in my real life, all the same liberals who derided Bush for EP are doing the same for Obama. I haven't seen those patterns of consistency on the right. /shrug

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpevans View Post

    It's not as if the ATF sold guns to criminals, as Issa has implyed, they were powerless to make arrests only survail, there are countless ways to loss a "Tail". Yet Issa didn't call on the Prosicuters who refused to act on the evidence presented. Instead they went after the Top of DOJ, without doing an investigation of those actually involved & working up as high as it went, they (Issa) were only interested in nailing Holder & through him President Obama, two (Black) birds with one stone.

    That actually leads to another issue. If they had been enforcing immigration then its possible the mexican "hormigas" would not even be able to illegally cross the border and purchase the guns.

    Regardless, that take on the story is refuted by the agents on the ground at the time.

    "His agents told a different story to a congressional committee. They testified that they were instructed by supervisors not to move in and question the buyers but to let the guns go and see where they ended up. They called their actions "gun-walking.""
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