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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    OK, you walk into the insurance office and explain that Obama will give you TAX CREDIT money NEXT YEAR if the insurance company will give them FREE insurance now? Just how is that going to work out?

    Yes, we all agree that the ACA needs to be better explained.

    Before the election they should run a number of hour long programs on prime time networks. Showing how the ACA works and how people will benefit from it.

    Allow fact-checkers to fairly comment on its accuracy as well as the inaccuracy of the fox news spin after the programs air.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you expect a person with broken leg to just pull themselves up by their boot straps
    I expect and adult with a broken leg to get it treated (if they wish) and to pay for the cost of treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you expect a person with broken leg to just pull themselves up by their boot straps
    Not literally, but there are ways to get help with that that do not require FedGov making our life decisions for us.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You are right the HC bill begins to change that antiquated narrow view and replaces it with actual health care. That is what we are paying for HEALTH CARE, not some kind of lottery where we bet on what will go wrong with our health.
    Your words reveal you. Is it just my right to private property that you refer to as an antiquated narrow view? Do you view other acts of theft and violence in the same expansive way?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And now for a little political humor. From Mitt Romney's campaign web site:

    "As president, Mitt will nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito”

    Seal Team Six needs to swing by Thomas and Scalia's pad.

    Although, I kinda feel bad for Thomas, as he'll be sleeping on the couch for the next six months.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And now for a little political humor. From Mitt Romney's campaign web site:

    "As president, Mitt will nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito”

    Don't be surprised if it turns out Roberts decision sabotages Obamas re-election.

    Or it was calculated to avoid apathetic democrats being galvanized by an overturn.

    I smells a rat, I tells ya. Dont trust Roberts as far as I could poop him.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The Foxies with their "in history"...

    Everything Obama does is the biggest or worst "in history"...

    The obstructionist GOP has set a record number of filibusters. That record will never be broken... in history.
    I completely agree with the middle statement...

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You had a miscarriage? How does a guy have a miscarriage?
    He pinched off a loaf and it looked kind of funny.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah, right....wait until Jan 2013. You will be singing a different tune unless something drastic happens.....
    If my taxes go up so poor people have a slightly better standards of living and coal/oil companies stop pumping co2 into the air... I can live with that.

    Because I'm not selfish and ignorant.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    I just want to say how proud I am of Chief Justice Roberts for putting his political ideology aside and doing the right thing. This is the first time in years that I've felt like our government can actually accomplish something meaningful.

    On the substance, it's pretty much a sweeping win for Obama. The court did offer conservatives a couple token olive branches which don't significantly impact the law itself: They ruled that forcing people to buy things is not permitted under the Interstate Commerce Clause (although they also said that this isn't what the law does), and they ruled that states have the right to turn down the Medicaid expansion without jeopardizing their existing funds.

    At first I was a bit shocked by their Medicaid decision...I didn't think that would be controversial at all and expected it to be widely upheld. But after I thought about it I'm actually OK with it, because states would be turning down the deal of a century if they chose not to expand Medicaid. They're getting a 100% match from the federal government. Virtually all of the blue states and swing states will of course choose to do so. The red states may "opt out" of the expansion in the short term, while they're still fuming over this decision...but I suspect that they'll quietly get on board in a couple years when the furor dies down. So it sucks that people without health insurance living in Republican states may have to go without health insurance for a couple extra years, but in the grand scheme of things that's a price worth paying for this great Supreme Court decision.

    All in all, a great day for the Supreme Court's credibility, and a great day for the United States of America.
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