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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]


    Good answer to a different statement, it doesn't seem to work here though.
    My statement was "I'm glad you have faith in the word of Insurence Companies".
    You do see it makes you look like a clown....oh.....
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    What? How is it my fault Obama bargained away single payer when you weren't looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Looks like it was a bad day for whackos. Step ahead for the sane people though, despite the contortions that Legislator-from-the-Bench-in-Chief Roberts had to go thorugh to wind up where he did.
    So in your opinion people who oppose legislating from the bench are insane?

    What's insane about not wanting to be chained to an overpriced policy?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Dude, it is in the bill.

    No one said anything about reduced premiums. It works through tax credits. You obviously don't know what a tax credit is. If you owe no income tax and have a tax credit, you get a check in the amount of the credit from the government. That's the distinction between a credit and a deduction.
    Where does the Federal Government get the money to pay for these "Tax Credits"

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    $4 grand per average middle class family? That's pennies to you? Not to me.
    Way too low on that $4K per family, its more like $6K per PERSON.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Cons have forgotten that they used to be in favor of disclosure in political contributions, correctly pointing out that it would decrease corruption.....but now WANT no disclosure.
    Right, just like they were against transparency when Bush's documents were subpoened by they're OUTRAGED now.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Cons have forgotten that they used to be in favor of disclosure in political contributions, correctly pointing out that it would decrease corruption.....but now WANT no disclosure.
    Only the ones getting paid under the table. There is a distinction.
    Thank you

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652]

    I guess Obama can no longer say he didn't increase taxes.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    No question this is a victory for Hussein Obama although he says this is not a tax and the SCOTUS says it is.......I believe that anyone who was on the fence on this issure will defintely help Romney and bring independents out in mass to vote for him....People in this country do not want to foot the bill for 40,000,000 people who don't have insurance.....they are having a hard time paying for their own insurance....This ruling could very easily become a death blow in regards to Hussein Obama's reelection......
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Show me where I have ever said it's not.

    Oh stop....What a lame comeback, you know damned well that liberals scoffed at 'death panels'. But good to see you now admit it.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're not getting it, this isn't for families with a good income, the ones who pay taxes. This is for the families that cannot afford insurance. Chances are good if they cannot afford insurance they aren't paying [federal] taxes in the first place. So a tax credit isn't going to help them one bit.
    Every household that has income pays taxes, You keep arguing that there are millions of households without income, it is a false narrative. Every household will have to either buy ins or pay a penalty. Some of it will be subsidized but at a MUCH lower cost than what we have now. Mass has already shown this to be true, premium costs have been reduced, enrollment is up and it is a popular system.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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