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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So much for protecting the Constitution, eh? If it doesn't satisfy your political view, just tear it up and start over.
    I don't believe this ruling is correct; just like I don't believe most of their rulings in the last several decades have been. We've reached a point where it has become necessary to do what our forefathers did in April of 1775 and again in April of 1861. The People won the first of those conflicts and lost the second. It's time for the deciding game to settle the score permanently and figure out whether this nation has any value left. As of right now I would say it does not.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Get that from Stormfront?

    Good to know what you're really worried about. Sieg Heil!
    Why do you attack me personally. Focus on the message and not me.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    The individual mandate survived as a tax which poses a few problems. First, the Obama administration vehemently denied that it was raising taxs to support the bill but now effectively has raised taxs to support the bill. Second, the law itself gives the IRS no legal authority to pursue the fine/tax. Third, the people that will be taxed are the poorer of us that can't afford the tax and probably won't pay it anyway. Last, medicare expansion was thrown out so this money that is collected by the fine/tax serves no purpose.

    Great job Congress!
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Well, this is exciting.
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I heard it was 6-3.
    nope, Kennedy sided with the conservatives to chuck the whole thing. Roberts sided with the liberals to uphold.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How do you figure that, since I can almost GUARANTEE that when our Union Contract is up next year the Company I work for is going to do everything in their power to limit or take our health insurance benefit away from us due to the "Cadilac" healthcare provision in this bill?
    The main benefit of the Act is to provide subsidies to working people who can't afford to buy it on their own and who don't get it through their employer. That is what extends insurance to 30 million people who don't have it.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post

    John goddamn Roberts.
    Bush appointee. Just saying...


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The individual mandate survived as a tax which poses a few problems. First, the Obama administration vehemently denied that it was raising taxs to support the bill but now effectively has raised taxs to support the bill. Second, the law itself gives the IRS no legal authority to pursue the fine/tax. Third, the people that will be taxed are the poorer of us that can't afford the tax and probably won't pay it anyway. Last, medicare expansion was thrown out so this money that is collected by the fine/tax serves no purpose.

    Great job Congress!
    It's only a tax if someone refuses to comply with the law.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Why do you attack me personally. Focus on the message and not me.
    Your message is racist. I have no time for those BS ideas.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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