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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The poorest of the poor aren't affected by this at all. They're covered by Medicaid.
    That argument turns in on itself. The purpose of this law was to cover people not covered by medicaid.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Despite being a misleading number, that equates to about 10% of the population. It also includes those that choose not to buy insurance despite being able to afford it.
    The ObamaCare tax penalty applies to the unlucky citzens that make too much to get in the "discount" (free?) pool, yet not enough to afford the medical care insurance premiums offered IN THEIR STATE so they must pay the federal fine AND pay out of pocket for any needed medical care that they should happen to require. Unlike SNAP benefits, that have a sliding benefit scale, no such deal was included in PPACA, you either do or do not qualify for gov't help buying "private" medical insurance. This will really enrage those that are right on the edge, they make just too much to get the gov't "help", but after paying the IRS fine, their REAL remaining income would have qualified. The law will likely be "tweeked" to avoid this nonsense.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is a hoot. The gov't has set both minimum and maximum benefits that "private" insurance companies can offer. ;-)
    A bit of a non sequitur, and also not true. Companies can set whatever maximum benefits they want, as long as they're willing to pay the tax.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    So again, if the poorest of the poor can't pay who picks up the tab?
    The same folks who pay now when those poor folks use emergency care for healthcare and then stiff the hospital because they're too poor to pay the bill.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The poorest of the poor aren't affected by this at all. They're covered by Medicaid.
    Why? Isn't this the reason for the bill? To take care of those who can't afford HC?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    So again, if the poorest of the poor can't pay who picks up the tab?
    Just like now. ALL of the insured do. It's just that now there are more of us insured so the costs will be less for each of us.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    how much insurance do you now have to have?

    is only hospital insurance enough? can it just be non-emergency coverage?

    can it be super cheap with a $15,000 deductable?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    THIS is what you decided to vote for Romney on? Seriously dude? Where have you been for the past two decades? Despite Romney's claimed new position, he was a champion of Obamacare. If you are basing your vote for him on this....you are seriously just getting shaken and snowed by this week's etch a sketch.
    No, as I explained, I decided to vote Romney when Obama went full-on off the rails (the Dream Act passed by the Executive, covering his or someone's ass in the F&F mess, etc.). This, most recent BS, has made me want to stump for Romney. Now, I'm not only going to vote for him, but I'll work to get him elected.

    At this point it's all about the SCOTUS. Two, maybe three justices are going to step down in the next couple presidential terms. I do not want Obama making those appointments.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Why? Isn't this the reason for the bill? To take care of those who can't afford HC?
    No not really. The bill was written so more can afford coverage but more importantly it serves to reign in the insurers who have been abusing many of us. No more denying coverage..that is a major cause of bankruptcy amoung the insured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    At this point it's all about the SCOTUS. Two, maybe three justices are going to step down in the next couple presidential terms. I do not want Obama making those appointments.
    Yeah we need more conservative justices like Roberts.

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