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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I guess Romney was lying too, then. l:

    I guess we will find out when he takes office and throws this destroyer out on his ear.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Even if that were true, and we're not sure that's going to be the case, the remaining 18 million uninsured won't be so happy. They'll still have no insurance, and be penalized for it to boot.

    Number of uninsured Americans rises to 50.7 million.
    Arguably, the Affordable HealthCare Act caused that dramatic increase. Companies are already dumping those off their insurance plans if their yearly costs are higher than the penalty costs.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm just happy Obama finally fought back and put a hell of a legal team together.
    He sure did.
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    He got what he wanted.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Okay, Mr. Armed Revolution.

    What ever....Some may take the sheep's role, others like their freedom.

    BTW, can you refute what the DoI says? Or are you just going to start personal attacks now?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No mystery there. Unions generally have negotiated health care benefits that have to be renegotiated as a result of the change. Remember, this is just a TEMPORARY waiver — not an exemption.
    5 years is temporary? They dont get taxed until 2018 :P
    From the article. I obviously dont have the waivers in front of me.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I guess we will find out when he takes office and throws this destroyer out on his ear.
    We already know. He said he didn't raise taxes as governor and now he says that the mandate he signed into law was a tax. He was either lying then or he's lying now, by your logic.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I couldn't help but notice other posters calling you out on your racist comments. They shouldn't attack you personally, why? Because you are white?
    It's because of a loophole in the rules. It's ok to say things that are racist, but apparently it's not ok to call it what it is.


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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Correction, "you must have gone to, or attended, etc. " Must of went to" would have made my english/grammar teacher wince...

    I hope Tigger and Albert keep us posted on their moves.....might be interesting...
    Well, if you knew Smiley High (Houston, Texas) you wouldn't have "attended" there, you would have "gone to." We kinda have our own language. LOL!

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    $650 a year in order to have guarunteed coverage for all pre-existing conditions, sounds like a good deal to me.

    Yep and every business is going to love it to .. . Here is the law as it stands now

    “for firms which do not offer insurance any insurance, have more then 50 employees and have at least one employee receiving insurance subsidies, they must pay a tax of $2.000 per subsidized employee. The individual mandate requires everyone to purchase health insurance. The tax is applied to all of a firms employees (ater excluding the first 30) not just those that are subsidized. For example a firm with 51 would pay $42,000 in new annual taxes and an additional $2,000 tax for every new hire.

    So for 51 employees a company would pay 42,0000 in fines ….. You know I’m just guessing , but I’ll bet that is less they what they pay in insurance premiums for those same employee’s

    I hope all the liberals are going to be overjoyed, when your company comes and tells you that they are no longer going to provide you with insurance … Good luck in finding a policy to cover you and your family for $2,000 a year.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    We already know. He said he didn't raise taxes as governor and now he says that the mandate he signed into law was a tax. He was either lying then or he's lying now, by your logic.
    And now republicans are vowing to dismantle Obamacare, and repeal it. Let's stay on topic k?

    Did Obama lie when he told ABC that it wasn't a tax?
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