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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well then - see you at the gallows, my treason endorsing friend.
    The Declaration of Independence says right in it "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,..."
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    ...Which is why Single Payer, Universal Health Care, is the crown jewel of Socialism. Karl Marx is celebrating today.
    mere hyperbole.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, everything is about intelligence with me. Fools dancing around thinking they've done something when all they've done is perpetuated the status quo and created even worse entanglement of government corporate identity are annoying. This is the same as Medicade Part D. It is not solving any problem, it is not helping our health care system, it will not improve our access to it nor the cost of it. All the problems which currently exist STILL EXIST. Nothing was solved, the only thing that has changed is that insurance companies now have government mandated customers. That's it. Yay for that "win"

    Everything has become so horribly hyper-partisan that none of y'all are thinking anymore. You're just pointing your fingers at the other side and screaming incoherently.
    but Hatueys side one. that is all he sees.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It can have whatever it wants. It's constitutional. We don't go by popular opinion. Comprende?
    WRONG. Laws have changed a lot over time precisely because they were unpopular. It is constitutional to tax everyone at 99% but not popular. When the sheeple see the REAL cost of gov't medical care control, they will change it. Congress made this mess and they will be held accountable too clean it up. ;-)
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, everything is about intelligence with me. Fools dancing around thinking they've done something when all they've done is perpetuated the status quo and created even worse entanglement of government corporate identity are annoying. This is the same as Medicade Part D. It is not solving any problem, it is not helping our health care system, it will not improve our access to it nor the cost of it. All the problems which currently exist STILL EXIST. Nothing was solved, the only thing that has changed is that insurance companies now have government mandated customers. That's it. Yay for that "win"

    Everything has become so horribly hyper-partisan that none of y'all are thinking anymore. You're just pointing your fingers at the other side and screaming incoherently.
    So.... no rum & coke for you? It's okay. I don't mind. I'm just happy Obama finally fought back and put a hell of a legal team together.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    I swear, Obama is worse than Nixon.
    Nixon was a saint compared to our last few Presidents. And he tried to institute nationalize heathcare!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    what an outright lie.
    Nope, it's a fact. That's why you didn't try to argue against it, you just threw a bunch of mud on the wall.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nixon was a saint compared to our last few Presidents. And he tried to institute nationalize heathcare!
    this is a dirty little secret Conservatives LOVE to ignore.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well - at least you're honest enough to admit that much. Hey, no hard feelings. We all have the best interests for this country even if we don't agree on which way to go. I'm sure in 4 years I'll be in your shoes wishing Democrats put forward somebody I like.
    No hard feelings? The SCOTUS just made a ruling that is going to force me to give up my US Citizenship and you say "No hard feelings?" Sorry, that doesn't work. Nor do I believe that the vast majority of people living in this nation have the country's best interests at heart. By the time this year's election comes around it won't make any difference for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why does it bother you to help your fellow Americans so much?
    How about because: 1. THEY DON'T DESERVE IT. and 2. It requires me to reduce my own budget to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well then - see you at the gallows, my treason endorsing friend.
    Better DEAD than RED.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Hope they provide you with detailed instructions.
    I was actually able to find this..... Site Overview | Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship: A Web Guide It's really more aimed at people who are doing it for tax purposes, but the information seems to be worthwhile either way.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    but Hatueys side one. that is all he sees.
    Yeah, they "won". By winning they mean that they found a way to take more of our money and give it away to corporations which support the government.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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