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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    hahahahahaaaaaa... States can not be forced into enforcing this.....

    Libs.. so stupid..
    I hate to break this to you, but while states can TECHNICALLY opt out, in practice they won't be able to unless they want to foot the whole bill themselves.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Go back and see who the first person was to bring up race in this thread. It wasn't a liberal.
    Please, it was liberals, when ever Obama looses.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm pretty sure those slave owning Libertarians would know where he's coming from.


    What do slaves have to do with the HC bill passing?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, it was Hautey, check the post again.
    no way.. thats a shocker... NOT

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Granted that I havent read through the entire strata of responses, has anyone referenced all those waivers? They are waivers against a tax yes? You cant apply a tax selectively or grant waivers selectively. Are those waivers constitutional? If they are not, what then? There are literally millions of people affected by those waivers as well.

    Then we move onto the argument of taxing whatever the heck you want, from cell phones (you need them to call for emergency care, as an argument) to green policies (has to have a certain MPG) or lulz here but how about taxing for NOT having a gun for self protection. All of those could be applied from this ruling. This didnt stop the problems, its just the beginning of the mess we are going to have to sort out, this ruling was probably the largest since Wickard---which was somewhat derailed by this ruling in an odd way by sidestepping into the tax area and not ruling on the limitation of the commerce clause.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    ...So what is left? I believe a revolution must now occur. I do not see any way around it now that the full blown tyranny is upon us. It is a defeat for everybody.
    you want to violently overthrow the freely-elected govt. of the USA, because folks who don't have health insurance will be charged $650 a year?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I hate to break this to you, but while states can TECHNICALLY opt out, in practice they won't be able to unless they want to foot the whole bill themselves.
    Nope, I believe that part of the ruling is that the federal government can not withhold Medicare funds as a penalty.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    hahahahahaaaaaa... States can not be forced into enforcing this.....

    Libs.. so stupid..
    Really the only thing that was ruled on the other side for was that states didn't have to comply with medicaid expansions on threat of losing benefits they did not yet have.

    If you have other info that isn't that I'd be ECSTATIC to see it.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    What do slaves have to do with the HC bill passing?
    I brought up Ron Paul, American replied he lived in the wrong time where people didn't know where he was coming from - I concurred, the FFs ie slave owning Libertarians (by Ron Paul's own account) would know where he's coming from.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We're not going to have another civil war. It's 2012, not the 1860s. Good luck getting Cons/Libs to actually go at it.
    I agree with you. It won't be a civil war.

    It will have to be a revolution. The Constitution has been overturned. There are no more limits for government. So the government must go. This is an overwhelmingly bad thing that the Democrats and the Supreme Court has done.

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