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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And what do you think those people were doing for healthcare before? Doing without? No, they were getting it for free at everyone else's expense. Now they will at least pick up some of the tab.
    Well, that must be why Obama is increasing Food Stamp ads on tv aimed at the elderly....
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    hahahahahaaaaaa... States can not be forced into enforcing this.....

    Libs.. so stupid..

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that all liberal/progressives know how to do, is throw the race bomb?
    Please — you better check who's playing the race card here.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What in ACA do you think diminishes your health care?
    The GPHC....
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that all liberal/progressives know how to do, is throw the race bomb?
    Good to know you only came to complain about "race bomb" after I came in - and not you know - the last 20 pages where Albert Di Salvo has been making this into a race issue.

    Your hypocrisy gets thicker every day and I love to expose it.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that all liberal/progressives know how to do, is throw the race bomb?
    Go back and see who the first person was to bring up race in this thread. It wasn't a liberal.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I believe this ends the United States.
    I believe this to be a foolish statement of the highest caliber. Ends the United States? It will take more than this to end the United States.

    But this highlights one of the serious problems we are facing. This give away to the insurance companies is just a long line of government handouts to corporations, nothing new here. But it does show the inability we seemingly have in having an intelligent debate. It has to devolve into "this ends America" and blah blah blah whatever other retarded arguments and emotional deflections which prevent us from intelligently and rationally discussing the issue.

    I think perhaps there does need to be a revolution, but maybe it should be to cast all the idiots into the ocean. Which would include the vast majority of DC. Hope we don't raise the water level too much.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Please — you better check who's playing the race card here.
    Yeah, it was Hautey, check the post again.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As I'm sure you know, there is no free lunch. If a deduction is paid for by borrowing then it will eventually have to be paid for by higher taxes and/or spending cuts.
    Yes, I MAY be required to pay for it indirectly, just like I MAY be required to pay for an increase in gas prices when I buy a bottle of milk. The difference, of course, is that I am not being directly fined. The key here is coercion. This is coercion to get people to buy bloated health insurance. I don't think coercion is DIRECTLY wrong (I think we should encourage positive behaviors), however it's the method I have a problem with. I'm not rushing out to take advantage of every possible tax credit because I MIGHT be taxed more later. If I'm gonna go broke because congress passed a bunch of laws requiring me to go out and buy a bunch of stuff or else I'll face severe "taxation," I'm certainly going to consider the choice MUCH more closely.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, it was Hautey, check the post again.
    You're about to look really bad.
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