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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you see tens of millions of more Americans having health-insurance and pre-conditions being covered, as a bad thing?
    I oppose anything that reduces the quality of the health care of my kith and kin. It wasn't necessary to diminish the quality of my health care in order to expand coverage for the uninsured.

    This will fester and foster continuing and ongoing division. This will be a pyhrric victory for your side. You have imposed your will upon us, but have engendered bitterness that will grow and grow as the quality of healthcare diminishes.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertzz View Post
    Unless they can't afford it. in which case there are grants to pay for it... which is paid for by the government who is funded by.... (I'll give you a hint - the penalties will not be enough to cover the grants. not even 50%)
    What grants?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm pretty sure those slave owning Libertarians would know where he's coming from.
    trolling about

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Folks at the low end of the scale will have to pay something towards their insurance, but it's subsidized on a sliding scale, with the subsidy phasing out as income rises. Would you prefer that they just get free health care?
    There is no sliding scale is there?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I expect there to be little concern over this, from white old people. What are they gonna do, throw their false-teeth at the tv?
    They will vote based on their interests.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm pretty sure those slave owning Libertarians would know where he's coming from.
    Is that all liberal/progressives know how to do, is throw the race bomb?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I oppose anything that reduces the quality of the health care of my kith and kin. It wasn't necessary to diminish the quality of my health care in order to expand coverage for the uninsured.

    This will fester and foster continuing and ongoing division. This will be a pyhrric victory for your side. You have imposed your will upon us, but have engendered bitterness that will grow and grow as the quality of healthcare diminishes.
    What in ACA do you think diminishes your health care?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No one gets something for nothing under this bill. The poorest people affected still have to pay part of their premiums.


    This doesn't make sense. If the poorest people are living off of food stamps and welfare, where are they going to get the money to pay these premiums?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    There is no sliding scale is there?
    Yes, there is. The more you make the more you pay.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertzz View Post
    Unless they can't afford it. in which case there are grants to pay for it... which is paid for by the government who is funded by.... (I'll give you a hint - the penalties will not be enough to cover the grants. not even 50%)
    Who do you think pays for it when an uninsured person goes to the emergency room and doesn't pay the bill?

    In a perfect world everyone would pay for themselves, and they could all afford it happily, and it would rain champagne. It's not a perfect world. We did manage to pass a bill that does insure a large group of those that didn't previously had it which will allow many people to actually practice preventative medicine and such, which will save some money.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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