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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Sure.
    I accept your change of heart.





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    Thanks for the citation.



    So is hypocrisy, and this isn't about love.
    I agree. This is about a political culture that has placed us in the position of a nonviolent civil war.








    Picking the worst from multiple sources isn't what I call eclectic.
    I support full civil rights for LGBTQ people. Is that what you're referring to?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Does ANYONE know the case number/case name for this?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Folks at the low end of the scale will have to pay something towards their insurance, but it's subsidized on a sliding scale, with the subsidy phasing out as income rises. Would you prefer that they just get free health care?
    Please link to that sliding scale so I can see it.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    And I must say, it is amazing that John Roberts, who was GWB's nominee and the Chief Justice, is the one who made the deciding vote. Fun times we live in.
    They are suppose to do their job. They are not suppose to be politicians. They are not suppose to legislate, but be referees. It is refreshing whenever justices "cross party lines" and rule.

    The last thing America needs is a political court. We, as a people, have sanctioned the politicalization of the court by encouraging our POTUS's to have litmus tests for their justice selections. Its a pity that we have so many politicians on the court as it is, but Washington is so out of control that it needs adult supervision. I feel like the SOCTUS, overall, behaved as adults today. It is encouraging.

    Though I lean the other way, I did like Roberts selection as a justice. I thought he was an adult. Today, IMHO, he showed himself to be..... It could have done the political thing; instead, he chose the right thing.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I was bashing W when bashing W wasn't cool, but I always praised him for his choice of judges. I don't believe Bush could have imagined this scenario. Not with the credentials Roberts had at the time Bush appointed him. I still give Bush a A+ on judges, despite today's ruling.
    You bashed W for everything, as though he never did anything right. That was wrong. He did some things wrong, like spending too much, but he didn't do everything wrong.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Your HC will cost you less, if you want to pay more.....you can...if you want.
    I don't believe you. No one can deny that $500 billion will be transferred out of Medicare and into Obamacare. White seniors will resent this. Their resentment is a basis for political action.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And that totally blows me away. I never could have seen this in a million years.

    Maybe the justices of Christmas past, present, and future paid him a visit late one night.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    My premiums were rising a lot before health care reform. Who do I blame for that? Just like we shouldn't have bought into all the hype before the ruling, we shouldn't buy into the hype about and doomsayers about what will happen now. When will we ever elarn?
    I have had the opposite experience. My premiums have risen since the Obamacare bill was passed (three times now adding up to a hundred dollars a month more). Before my rate had remained stable for the last three years.

    This has me so angry, I'm almost to the point of cancelling it so I can refuse to pay any penalty. Quite simply, for many of us, this is no longer our country. It has left individual freedom in the dust. I used to disagree with folks who said that, now I see their point.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We're not going to have another civil war. It's 2012, not the 1860s. Good luck getting Cons/Libs to actually go at it.
    You're right there isn't going to be a civil war. But this decision can be used to stoke resentment for political purposes. This weakens the country.

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