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SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

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then why did Obama make sure to say this wasn't a tax?... why was he being deceitful?

This argument is so-ooo pathetically weak.


You say tax, I say penalty for those who can afford health insurance but opt not to buy it potential placing a burden on society.
 
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OK....you don't want to talk about your contradictions....I'll let them stand, It was an opportunity for you to clear your contradictions.

That's cool.


Again? Really? What are you attracted to me? I know I look good in my avatar picture. Those tight pants; that swaggering lean and that come hither smile on my face, not to mention that manly gun in my hand. Just between you and me - is that it?
 
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Let's see how the SCOTUS decision impacts the election in November. Remember the 2010 mid-term elections?

New Poll: The Supreme Court and the Health Care Law
By ADAM LIPTAK and ALLISON KOPICKI

More than two-thirds of Americans hope the Supreme Court will overturn some or all of the 2010 health care law, according to a new poll conducted by The New York Times and CBS News. Just 24 percent said they hoped the court “would keep the entire health care law in place.”

Forty-one percent of those surveyed said the court should strike down the entire law, and another 27 percent said the justices should overturn only the individual mandate, which requires most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty.

New Poll: The Supreme Court and the Health Care Law - NYTimes.com
 
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I never expected it, however I did expect better than racism/agism arguments against it.

That is just way too fringy to be taken even remotely seriously....but I guess that is the best some have.

Ok, that's nice.
 
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This argument is so-ooo pathetically weak.


You say tax, I say penalty for those who can afford health insurance but opt not to buy it potential placing a burden on society.


Doesn't matter what you say....The court said it was a tax period.
 
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The provision that required expansion of medicaid eligibility was shot down. You misunderstand.


'shot down' -- not quite, the Federal government just doesn't have to give free money to states that won't comply with the rules.

Hopefully, a massive plague will wipe out the red states and we can finally have our country back.
 
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Where are all the Liberals who said this court was a very Conservative court and would be very partisan in their verdict? I think Justice Roberts is a sly fox and you have not heard the end of this especially if Romney is elected president......
 
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Again? Really? What are you attracted to me? I know I look good in my avatar picture. Those tight pants; that swaggering lean and that come hither smile on my face, not to mention that manly gun in my hand. Just between you and me - is that it?
LOL....is that what you are trying to project? LOL!

No dear.....I always enjoy showing people contradictions in their statements.

If it gets too hot for you, get out of the kitchen.
 
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Doesn't matter what you say....The court said it was a tax period.

Yeah, and if you can afford insurance but don't buy it, you'll have to pay the penalty when you pay your taxes.

Happy?
 
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Well I guess I'm wrong. :doh

Not wrong, just in the boat now with the rest of us wondering how long before we have healthcare more like England, or Cuba....Hell, I almost think that now that it is cemented by the SCOTUS, why not take it all the way to Single payer, we know that is where this is headed anyway.
 
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Yeah, and if you can afford insurance but don't buy it, you'll have to pay the penalty when you pay your taxes.

Happy?

You mean the tax.
 
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Where are all the Liberals who said this court was a very Conservative court and would be very partisan in their verdict? I think Justice Roberts is a sly fox and you have not heard the end of this especially if Romney is elected president......


Yeah, this conspiracy theory is making the rounds.

Fox will be running it all night -- the double-secret-probation master plan devised by Roberts.

You guys are too much!!!:lol:
 
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LOL....is that what you are trying to project? LOL!

No dear.....I always enjoy showing people contradictions in their statements.

If it gets too hot for you, get out of the kitchen.


Hot? Is that a code word "dear".

I'm really starting to wonder if you don't have a man crush on me.

Thanks anyway. :lamo
 
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The provision that required expansion of medicaid eligibility was shot down. You misunderstand.

False. The penalty was shot down. http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/06/c...ve-choice-whether-to-join-medicaid-expansion/

The bottom line is that: (1) Congress acted constitutionally in offering states funds to expand coverage to millions of new individuals; (2) So states can agree to expand coverage in exchange for those new funds; (3) If the state accepts the expansion funds, it must obey by the new rules and expand coverage; (4) but a state can refuse to participate in the expansion without losing all of its Medicaid funds; instead the state will have the option of continue the its current, unexpanded plan as is.
 
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Great day to be in one of the Blessed Unions.

So much for equal protection.
 
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Where are all the Liberals who said this court was a very Conservative court and would be very partisan in their verdict? I think Justice Roberts is a sly fox and you have not heard the end of this especially if Romney is elected president......

Actuallly I suggested Roberts as a swing vote just last night.
 
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'shot down' -- not quite, the Federal government just doesn't have to give free money to states that won't comply with the rules.

Hopefully, a massive plague will wipe out the red states and we can finally have our country back.


Spoken like a true progressive whiner. Sick man hoping for the death of half the population.
 
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Nah, that line of argument is terribly sad.

You are entitled to think what ever you want. You are entitled to characterize my opinions in any way you see fit. And I am entitled to seek political advantage by fanning the flames of resentment and hurt on any grounds available.
 
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Hot? Is that a code word "dear".

I'm really starting to wonder if you don't have a man crush on me.

Thanks anyway. :lamo
Yeah...that's the ticket, I'm in love with you.....and every other con making contradictory comments.

Got any other tangents you want to explore to avoid actually addressing your contradictions? Maybe something along the lines of space aliens once you have played out the homophobic line?
 
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You are entitled to think what ever you want. You are entitled to characterize my opinions in any way you see fit. And I am entitled to seek political advantage by fanning the flames of resentment and hurt on any grounds available.
Of course you are, you can keep trying to make this a racist divide, and please do....it is great stuff. I love fringe, just ask Billy!
 
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Must have missed that one...:wink2:

Here it is. I got every other detail wrong, but I got Roberts right:

I am betting that after a spirited discussion, they decided that it could go either way, one or two are on the line(Roberts and kennedy) and really divided in how they want to rule, some one says "well, just punting it is a nice, legal, safe, convenient way to handle this", and they go that route.

I am not betting much more than about a penny, but that is what I suspect will happen.
 
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Roberts may very well have been worried about the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. However, liberals and leftists can no longer attack the legitimacy of the Supreme Court.
 
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