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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I doubt the Republic will crumble because of Obamacare.
    This is another straw on the camel's back. As each straw is added the risk of the camel's back breaking increases.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then they could tax you for not owning a gun, or for owning one.
    Yep, government set themselves up good, didn't they?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It is not 2014 yet, congress made this mess and can change it. ;-)
    They can but it would seem too 'nuclear' for either side to seriously touch it. BUT the rhetoric will continue ad infinitum.

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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    They seem to be down to me. Unless red means green and down means up.

    Let me pose another scenario since the people celebrating seemed to have ignored my earlier statements:

    Let's say big bad corporation x comes by and says "Hey congress, we elected you guys, we need you to pass a bill requiring people to buy our product!" So congress goes and says "Hey, okay, you did get us elected after all. Hmm, well we can't force people into commerce per say. Oh, I know, lets just follow the ACA and tax those who don't buy it!"

    Anyone want to explain to me how the supreme court DIDN'T just rule that this is fair game and totally constitutional? What better motivation to sell your product then fear of destitution.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well that F'ing does it. I guess I really am going to have to send money to Romney.
    Calm down. It's not like GWB just got reelected or anything... lol

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Was today's decision a defeat for Conservatives? Not necessarily, and here's why. What would definitely have been ruled Constitutional would have been to put EVERYBODY in the US under Medicare, thus giving us a system just like Canada's. Medicare is already settled law, and the only thing that would have to be done is merely changing the age from 65 to 0. Obamacare may be upon us, but it could have been a lot worse, had the Democrats pushed for a change in Medicare and won.

    Conservatives should not see todays ruling as either a victory or as a defeat. It's more like a tie in a football game, which is tantamount to having to kiss your sister. Liberals should see it the same way, since if they got what they wanted, Canada's system would be America's system too. And yes, today's ruling is an ugly looking sister too.
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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    They seem to be down to me. Unless red means green and down means up.
    Red means up and green means down.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The provision was agreed to by all of the states that ratified the original constitution.
    Yea, but we fought a war to change it, your side lost yet after 150 years you still can't accept it.



    I don't believe you.
    Go look it up.




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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Why would the veterans administration hospitals and military hospitals be shut down over this? Just curious.
    Two excuses/reasons/justifications. 1-the cost for what they have is simply too high. 2-To get in universal healthcare they would eliminate the military specific hospitals (and fiscally, it makes sense).

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    They can but it would seem too 'nuclear' for either side to seriously touch it. BUT the rhetoric will continue ad infinitum.
    Perhaps the president (king?) can simply choose not to enforce it for citizens under age 80. ;-)
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