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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    im good with everyone of those decisions....especially the piece of garbage biker in a wheelchair with vietnam vet pins all over him claiming he lost his legs at hamburger hill....pos was never in the military he lost his legs in bike crash...

    Cpwill come here...papa got a great big hankie for ya marine LOL ...just wait till obama wins re election your really gonna lose it....then when he lets the bush tax cuts expire oh boy I cant wait ROFL
    I'm confused. It seemed like you were saying you liked both rulings but didn't one of the rulings say that hte piece of garbage biker in a wheelchair with vietnam vet pins can still claim he lost his legs at hamburger hill?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The Constitution once said that African Americans were only worht 3/5th of a white person.
    A provision created by slave owners.

    The fact of the matter is that declining quality in healthcare can be used to rouse and motivate people politically.
    Mass has seen an improvement in quantity and quality.


    Al Sharpton tells us that it's ok to divide people and whip up their emotions.
    Racists divide themselves from society, they whip up no one but fellow racists.


    This is the way the American political culture works now.
    Populism has been a feature of US politics for a long time.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No. They just needed to nominate someone who wasn't his albino cousin. Unfortunately they were too stupid to do that, and so we can look forward to at least four more years of Liberalism in the Oval Office no matter who wins the election.
    Well - at least you're honest enough to admit that much. Hey, no hard feelings. We all have the best interests for this country even if we don't agree on which way to go. I'm sure in 4 years I'll be in your shoes wishing Democrats put forward somebody I like.

    I did NOT see the decision coming though. I thought parts of it would be struck down for sure. I thought with all the states coming with challenges there had to be parts of it which weren't constitutional. Glad to see Obama and his lawyers did their homework.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Nope. The commerce clause argument was found to be unconstitutional. However...they deemed that the penalty is a new tax, and that it falls under the guidelines of the feds ability to tax people. So the government can't force you to buy a commodity, but they can tax you for not owning a commodity.
    I find it extremely interesting that Roberts would agree with that, since it seems to go against his belief in strict interpretation.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Roe v.Wade still stands. And I had hope this HC bill would go down, but it didn't.

    The only hope is if the Repubs can take both houses in the fall and the WH.
    This decision can be used to stoke resentment. Resentment is an established basis for political organization and action.

    President Obama's numbers among white voters can be driven down by stoking resentment among white seniors especially.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    A provision created by slave owners.
    The 3/5ths provision was to restrict the representation of the South in Congress since they could effectively increase their pull in the government by buying more slaves.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Nope. The commerce clause argument was found to be unconstitutional. However...they deemed that the penalty is a new tax, and that it falls under the guidelines of the feds ability to tax people. So the government can't force you to buy a commodity, but they can tax you for not owning a commodity.
    Then they could tax you for not owning a gun, or for owning one.
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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

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    Always look for the silver lining.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then they could tax you for not owning a gun, or for owning one.
    Yep. There is no doubt that Congress will have more bills like this on the table over the next decade.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As somebody who really didn't know much about the healthcare debate and just wanted to see conservatives with eggs all over their faces:



    I for one would like to congratulate Obama for giving the Republicans 2 black eyes in 1 week. Not only did 3/4ths of the Arizona law get struck down, the ENTIRE healthcare mandate has been upheld. You can't make this guy up. Seriously, Republicans would need to essentially bring Jesus down from heaven to run against him. He's Clinton II.

    Sorry fellas!
    You could someday come to regret these laws. Be careful what you wish for.
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