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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Well, did not see this coming.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I for one would like to congratulate Obama for giving the Republicans 2 black eyes in 1 week. Not only did 3/4ths of the Arizona law get struck down, the ENTIRE healthcare mandate has been upheld. You can't make this guy up. Seriously, Republicans would need to essentially bring Jesus down from heaven to run against him. He's Clinton II.
    No. They just needed to nominate someone who wasn't his albino cousin. Unfortunately they were too stupid to do that, and so we can look forward to at least four more years of Liberalism in the Oval Office no matter who wins the election.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems more like a vote for the insurance companies. They are going to make out like bandits on this. Was it the commerce clause that Roberts expounded?

    Does anybody have a link to the actual SCOTUS decision (and not something from a news network)?
    Nope. The commerce clause argument was found to be unconstitutional. However...they deemed that the penalty is a new tax, and that it falls under the guidelines of the feds ability to tax people. So the government can't force you to buy a commodity, but they can tax you for not owning a commodity.

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    Supreme Court upholds Obama health care mandate

    Theres going to be alot of unhappy Tearpartiers out there


    The narrowly divided Supreme Court upheld President Obama's health care law Thursday in a complex opinion that gives the president a major election-year victory.


    The historic 5-4 decision will affect the way Americans receive and pay for their personal medical care. It upholds the individual mandate that most Americans get health insurance or pay a penalty -- and it was the penalty, or tax, that ultimately saved the law.
    Chief Justice John Roberts announced the decision that allows the law to go forward with its aim of covering more than 30 million uninsured Americans. He argued that the mandate is constitutional only because the penalty "functions like a tax" and is therefore allowed under Congress' taxing power.


    Supreme Court upholds Obama health care mandate


    I TRIED TO DELET REDRESS HONEST....but it wont let me
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The Supremes had their say on Roe v. Wade as well, but the issue didn't die.

    Roe v.Wade still stands. And I had hope this HC bill would go down, but it didn't.

    The only hope is if the Repubs can take both houses in the fall and the WH.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Nope. The commerce clause argument was found to be unconstitutional. However...they deemed that the penalty is a new tax, and that it falls under the guidelines of the feds ability to tax people. So the government can't force you to buy a commodity, but they can tax you for not owning a commodity.
    Stupidest ****ing ruling ever, Roberts dropped the ball on this.
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    Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care mandate

    morally, as this decision will ensure that many more Americans have health-insurance, I support this law.

    but from a purely legal & Constitutional POV, I think this ruling is very weird.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    covering it live on the blog. mods- not sure if this is the best venue, but it was "breaking"

    Also, the Stolen Valor Act was declared to be in violation of the First Amendment, so any of you who are fake war heroes can go on telling people how you were a Green Beret Seal who won the Medal of Honor.



    Damn. Damn Damn Damn. Apparently they bought that it was a tax, Roberts has sided with the left of the Court.


    the Medicaid expansion was "limited but not invalidated"





    Seriously, you gotta be F'ing kidding me. Obama spent a year and a half swearing up and down that this wasn't a tax, Congressional leadership following in suit.

    im good with everyone of those decisions....especially the piece of garbage biker in a wheelchair with vietnam vet pins all over him claiming he lost his legs at hamburger hill....pos was never in the military he lost his legs in bike crash...

    Cpwill come here...papa got a great big hankie for ya marine LOL ...just wait till obama wins re election your really gonna lose it....then when he lets the bush tax cuts expire oh boy I cant wait ROFL
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    This is a complete change in the status of corporations. This is the first time the goverment had gone into the business of using law to require all people give money to provate corporations. It's called corporate socialism, whih is radical rightwing, not leftwing. This was a trillion dollar takeaway from every American to corporate insurance industry.

    This is an example how much of a sellout and how much hypocrisy of the Obama Administration to the insurance industry (and why the wealthy will contribute a billion to his campaign - which isn't 1/10th of 1% of what a full term will deliver to selected insurance corporations, bankers, Wall Street and selective companies that contribute to the President politically.

    How much is President Obama giving to Insurance companies that pay-off the White House? Let's not pretend any of this is legitimate.

    10 Health Insurance Companies Get ObamaCare Waivers -- for Their Own Employees | CNSNews.com

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Too bad I was asleep to miss the hilarious gaffe about the coverage. I wanna see a pic of Obama holding a tablet with the "mandate struck down" headline ala Dewey Defeats Truman.

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