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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    If any teachers still use On Walden Pond by David Henry Thoreau they need to make sure their students understand that the way of life and values he wrote about now are illegal and inviolation of federal law.

    All adult Americans are now required to be employed to be able to either pay money to a private corporation or a significant fine for not doing so.

    The government should require parents to have life insurance to insure their children are taken care of if he/she/they die.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Why don't you tell us how big their skulls are.
    I don't know how big their skulls are.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Looks like the Supremes have had they're say on the issue.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems more like a vote for the insurance companies. They are going to make out like bandits on this. Was it the commerce clause that Roberts expounded?

    Does anybody have a link to the actual SCOTUS decision (and not something from a news network)?
    the majority opinion was that the mandate violated the commerce clause, but that it didn't matter, since it was a tax. Which means that while its unconstitutional for the feds to force you into commerce, its not unconstitutional for them to tax you based on your lack of commerce.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems more like a vote for the insurance companies. They are going to make out like bandits on this. Was it the commerce clause that Roberts expounded?
    Um, if eventually they can not turn you down for coverage, how are they going to make out like bandits? The cost of the 'tax' is less than the cost of coverage, so you drop coverage until it is needed, if it is not needed, you still pay less with the 'tax'. This is most likely going to run most insurance companies out of the health care industry.

    Then you will end up with big mama government running things. You know, the people that can't pass a simple budget, who ruin just about everything they touch. Our children and grand children are doomed.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Racist speech often hurts because it is intended to act as a catalyst for racist actions.
    Its political speech designed to motivate and help organization based on resentment. That's completely legal.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    As somebody who really didn't know much about the healthcare debate and just wanted to see conservatives with eggs all over their faces:



    I for one would like to congratulate Obama for giving the Republicans 2 black eyes in 1 week. Not only did 3/4ths of the Arizona law get struck down, the ENTIRE healthcare mandate has been upheld. You can't make this guy up. Seriously, Republicans would need to essentially bring Jesus down from heaven to run against him. He's Clinton II.

    Sorry fellas!
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Racists in the early 20th century used to have these studies measuring the size of Jewish and black skulls. I would be willing to bet that type of crap-science still gets past around in far-right circles.

    The poster to whom I was responding, seemed to, IMO, be dancing around the old racist ideas about blacks being genetically less equal. I believe that as we get closer to November people will start to show their true colors.
    Black people have all of the same capabilities that everyone else has. But that doesn't change the fact that Black people are a special interest group with objectives that can only be satisfied at the expense of other groups of people. It is perfectly legitimate to address this issue and to use it as the basis for political organization.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]



    Here Obama is vehemently denying it's a tax. He even raps Georgie for using the dictionary definition of tax.
    Last edited by Prof. Peabody; 06-28-12 at 01:29 PM.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Looks like the Supremes have had they're say on the issue.
    The Supremes had their say on Roe v. Wade as well, but the issue didn't die.

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