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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    They split the baby a bit by allowing states to opt out without penalty.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    You know you're a tough guy if you're making threats online, lol.
    Well, many of the people who do commit acts of violence make threats online first...

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    It means that the IRS can't go after them for refusing to pay the tax.

    They also said that if the Feds give the states more money for medicaid, they can't tell them how they have to use it. Brilliant.
    well that's a nice silver lining I suppose.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    maybe. But I doubt it. Romney (if elected) wants a second term, not a wholesale abandonment in favor of a third party (or a primary).
    He's a politician. He'll do the same thing Obama did with Guantanamo. he'll get in office, realize it's really hard to undo it, and give up on it.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    I need to go out and buy some champaigne!
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    apparently not so much:

    Apologies - you can't refuse to pay the tax; typo. The only effect of not complying with the mandate is that you pay the tax.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Now they are saying that you don't have to comply with the mandate, because you can choose to pay the tax. Redonkulous.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Woah, wait a minute
    Yeah, that was apparently a typo. He MEANT you have the choice to not comply with the mandate and pay the "tax."
    One who makes himself a worm cannot complain when tread upon.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    He's a politician. He'll do the same thing Obama did with Guantanamo. he'll get in office, realize it's really hard to undo it, and give up on it.
    nah. the thing that is impossible about Obamacare is fully implementing it - 2700 pages, all the regulations still haven't been written, more than half the states havent' even started getting ready to set up exchanges, and the cost will collapse the federal fisc. A simple "repeal" bill with a presidential signature is pretty simple, as would be giving out a waiver to all 50 states. Hell, Obama has set a precedent with Amnesty, Romney could just declare that he has ordered the IRS and HHS not to enforce the ACA.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    conservatives can at least take solace in the fact that they held it violated the commerce clause, which will limit the decision's effect.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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