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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

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    Go ahead and do that. There is absolutely no chance that he is telling you one thing and will act differently. One thing about Romney, when he picks a side, he never changes his mind, lol.
    maybe. But I doubt it. Romney (if elected) wants a second term, not a wholesale abandonment in favor of a third party (or a primary).

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Sorry, the supremes got this one 100% wrong. But it is funny that Obamma for so long said it was not a 'tax'.
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Woah, wait a minute

    ...The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate...

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Before Obamacare became law Mr. Obama said the Mandate was not a tax. Then in Court the Govt. attys. argued the Mandate was a tax. The Govt. is thoroughly dishonest and corrupt.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    From scotusblog: "The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate."

    Not sure what that means.
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

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    They're gonna need it, because trust me some of us are not going to take this crap lying down.
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    Damn. Damn Damn Damn. Apparently they bought that it was a tax, Roberts has sided with the left of the Court.

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    seriously, you gotta be F'ing kidding me. Obama spent a year and a half swearing up and down that this wasn't a tax, Congressional leadership following in suit.
    And on the upside, this decision will bring us toward insolvency at an accelerated rate, at which point the reset button will be engaged.
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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    From scotusblog: "The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate."

    Not sure what that means.
    It means that the IRS can't go after them for refusing to pay the tax.

    They also said that if the Feds give the states more money for medicaid, they can't tell them how they have to use it. Brilliant.

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    still copying from liveblog:

    On the Medicaid issue, a majority of the Court holds that the Medicaid expansion is constitutional but that it w/b unconstitutional for the federal government to withhold Medicaid funds for non-compliance with the expansion provisions.
    The key comment on salvaging the Medicaid expansion is this (from Roberts): "Nothing in our opinion precludes Congress from offering funds under the ACA to expand the availability of health care, and requiring that states accepting such funds comply with the conditions on their use. What Congress is not free to do is to penalize States that choose not to participate in that new program by taking away their existing Medicaid funding." (p. 55)

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    re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Sick to my stomach ATM.


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