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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I guess I can live with it. My plan is to buy health insurance based on these two conditions:

    1) If I am not sick/injured then pay the ($400?) IRS fine. That is only $34/month or a bit over $1/day.
    You do realize that it won't stay at $400 but is constructed on a sliding scale upwards. You keep making these dumb arguments without realizing that they infact make you like a fool.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yeah. From YOU and ME via our taxes. Just another thing for the Government to steal money from me in order to support. One more hand reaching into my pocket to take from the working man and give to these worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen. No thanks.
    We pay a greater amount for those who have no HI now, we are paying ER rates for those without HI.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What color burka will you wear in Tehran?
    I'm male, so the burka isn't an issue.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I was talking about the current Massachusetts system.

    Personally, once my company stops paying for my insurance, I won't have any. I simply won't pay for it under this system. It's that simple.
    Your company isn't going to stop paying for your insurance because of this. In fact they aren't paying for your insurance, period. You are paying for it in the form of lower cash pay.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Are you sure it's a great day for USA? Business Insider says the supreme court shocked the country.
    Business Insider.. the same source that claimed that Steven Hawkins would have died at an early age if he was English and under the NHS?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    We pay a greater amount for those who have no HI now, we are paying ER rates for those without HI.
    The proper way to fix that problem is to get rid of Ronald Reagan's dreadfully WRONG law stating that hospitals have to treat people who can't pay; NOT to force a National Healthcare system on people.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I was talking about the current Massachusetts system.

    Personally, once my company stops paying for my insurance, I won't have any. I simply won't pay for it under this system. It's that simple.
    I am too, and you still avoid calculating in the cost of HC without HI. Common Care is $118.

    Got math?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    White is an age cohort?
    Most of the elderly are white because they were born at a time when America was a white country. Their Medicare benefits are being cut by $500 billion and the money is being transferred to the beneficiaries of Obamacare.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Funny that we basically wrote the same thing at the same time. You must of went to Smiley High School.
    Correction, "you must have gone to, or attended, etc. " Must of went to" would have made my english/grammar teacher wince...

    I hope Tigger and Albert keep us posted on their moves.....might be interesting...
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I understand totally, I really do. I was in your position after the Brown and Walker elections and after Citizens United. I don't want to deprive you of any joy, so I'll say that I too am pissed off at this decision, but I shouldn't be surprised by it. It's just sad, to me, to see that the Constitution doesn't mean a Goddamn thing anymore and this decision signals the death knell for the idea that there are limits on federal power. I get why some people celebrate that. I just can't.
    Because it doesn't actually mean that. There wasn't actually anything groundbreaking or unprecedented about this healthcare law. The federal government doesn't have astounding new powers. Democracy isn't over. We don't live in a dictatorship. At least not because of this ruling, or a law that was rooted in compromise over our differing political factions, in an attempt to drastically reduce the number of people who die as a consequence of not being able to afford health insurance. A goal that only really evil people would oppose. The fact that this law had to go through such an arduous process is proof that there is still control and accountability. Checks and balances still works.
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