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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Good point, this end run thing could become a habit.
    Of course, the president (king?) can simply say all citizens under age 126 are exempt for four years. ;-)
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Exactly. Which makes it even worse. Paying a couple thousand dollars in premiums and then the co-pays, etc.... compared to paying a $900 fine (which most don't even pay, it simply reduces the amount of a refund they get back) and having no co-pays, etc....
    No you missed it....those not buying $118/month coverage will be paying the total amount of med care they receive....on top of the penalty. You left off the cost of care for those who do not purchase HI. That is MUCH higher without HI.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Apparently the taxing power is as broad as a majority of votes wants it to be.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I heard the GOP heads exploding all the way over here in Europe... must be a mess ...
    Big day for African America. But $500 billion will be transferred from Medicare to Obamacare. The age cohort that primarily benefits from Medicare is white.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    The poor will get help in order to afford it. Regardless, if you're so concerned that the poor can't afford insurance, why on earth aren't you concerned that they can't afford to not have health care insurance?
    In fact the Act doesn't apply to the truly poor at all. The truly poor qualify for Medicade. Nor do the penalties apply to low income workers.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    The poor will get help in order to afford it.
    Yeah. From YOU and ME via our taxes. Just another thing for the Government to steal money from me in order to support. One more hand reaching into my pocket to take from the working man and give to these worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen. No thanks.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by NameGoesHere View Post
    Does this officially make it a tax or does congress have to vote on it first?


    Good question

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Big day for African America. But $500 billion will be transferred from Medicare to Obamacare. The age cohort that primarily benefits from Medicare is white.
    White is an age cohort?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    if you do not donate 25% of your income to the RNC, a tax of approximately 50% of your income will be incurred.
    Fear mongering at its worst.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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