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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    My take on things based on limited knowledge that may be incorrect.

    The individual mandate was ruled as a tax, and a tax cannot be struck down as unconstitutional until it is implemented (which it has not yet). Obama also campaigned that this was definitely not a tax, which means he was either ignorant of what a tax really is, or he was lying in order to gain support and disprove accusations by Republicans that the mandate was a tax increase.

    Part of the law mandated that states expand Medicaid. I believe that this was struck down as unconstitutional.
    NO, the Court ruled that the Fed cannot take away the previuos Medicade funding if States don't want to implement the new expznsion. I doubt Staes will want to turn down the NEW money for the expansion so they wil go along. Basically the entire law was upheld as Constutional. You'd think the Reps. would be happy....there was NO legislating frm the bench. We all know how they hate that.

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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

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    This is a horrible day for the Country.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    The good news is the supremes found that doing this under the commerce clause was unconstitutional. That would have given the government virtually unlimited power.

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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    It's the first of two massive disappointment for the GOP in 2012. The next one comes in November.
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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This is a horrible day for the Country.
    There there now...
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Entire Healthcare Law Upheld

    I had hoped that they would uphold but as the conservatives should have sunk the law, it was the chief justice, the man George W. Bush helped into office, was the one who struck down the hopes of the republicans of winning this battle against Obama and Obamacare.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    You're an embarassment to that screenname and the character it represents, Cap.
    And you sir are quite representative of your screen name and avatar. I just love it when you bounce on your little tail.

    So cute.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No it's not. It definitely is not my country and that's why I just sent an email to the offices of both Massachusetts Senators asking how one goes about renouncing one's US Citizenship.
    Wow, self deportation in motion......

    Come on, this is a bit of hyperbole....

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    From the Dissent of Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Kennedy:

    ...The Court today decides to save a statute Congress didnot write. It rules that what the statute declares to be a requirement with a penalty is instead an option subject to a tax. And it changes the intentionally coercive sanction of a total cut-off of Medicaid funds to a supposedlynoncoercive cut-off of only the incremental funds that theAct makes available.
    The Court regards its strained statutory interpretationas judicial modesty. It is not. It amounts instead to a vast judicial overreaching. It creates a debilitated, inoperable version of health-care regulation that Congress did not enact and the public does not expect. It makes enactment of sensible health-care regulation more difficult, since Congress cannot start afresh but must take as its point of departure a jumble of now senseless provisions, provisions that certain interests favored under the Court’s new design will struggle to retain. And it leaves the public andthe States to expend vast sums of money on requirementsthat may or may not survive the necessary congressional revision...

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The good news is the supremes found that doing this under the commerce clause was unconstitutional. That would have given the government virtually unlimited power.
    That was a good call fo' sho'.

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