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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It is NOT 2014 yet. What congress adds as a "tax" they can just as easily repeal. This is nonsense and unpopular, so it is not likely to remain the "law of the land". I like the idea actually, of being able to buy insurance ANY TIME, even if I am sick, use the benefits and then cancel the policy immediatley after treatment. This will bankrupt the medical insurance industry in short order. ;-)
    Did you like the part where the insurance company took your premiums for years and then dropped you the minute you got sick?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    IF IT TAKES EVEN A SINGLE ****ING PENNY MORE OUT OF MY PAYCHECK (which it will) THEN IT HAS HAD TOO MUCH OF AN EFFECT ON MY LIFE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!
    Cool. Which country are you moving to?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So why do you know more about the Constitution than John Roberts?
    Obama voted against the confirmation of John Roberts, and now John Roberts has saved Obamacare. It's ironic isn't it?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    While everyone is beginning their victory dance, you DO realize that even if you are young, relatively healthy, and dont WANT to buy insurance (or are not in a secure place financially) that now you MUST and if you dont they can penalize you...right?

    Ive said all along...This isnt a bad idea...where/when implemented by the STATES. At the fed level? We have no idea how bad it is going to be financially. SO...again...

    pop the cork baby.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    For example?
    Think of any existing tax deduction.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The MA plan is very popular in MA. You have near universal coverage and very few people actually pay the penalty to avoid buying insurance.
    BULL****!!!!! You come here and ask the TAX PAYING members of the general public what they think of it and you'll get a very different viewpoint than what you think, Adam.

    People don't pay the $900 penalty because they're paying $1800-2500 a year in premiums. They'd actually be better of paying the FINE, but the state uses enough smoke and mirrors to keep most people from realizing that.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    IMHO it should be legal as long as hospital ERs HAVE to treat everyone regardless of their ability to pay. A more legal solution would have been to strike down the mandate and concurrently strike down uninsured treatment at ERs. Then have an agent at every ER in America that makes patients sign over their right not to have coverage for life as a condition of treatment.

    I wonder how this will affect the 2012 election. I heard a report saying whichever side loses will be fired up the most in November.

    I'll also say it now; I don't think the people all worked up over the constitutionality of Obamacare were really concerned in principle about its constitutionality. I think they simply wanted him to fail as POTUS and this was his key domestic policy initiative. "I'm middle-class or better. You shouldn't be able to make ME have health insurance when I don't want it." Yeah right! The same exact people who say they don't want to be forced to have health insurance actually have health insurance and see their doctors regularly. And they also pay for the uninsured in the form of higher premiums, exorbitant ER visits to subsidize the uninsured who use the ER as their family doctor and $10 a pill Tylenol when admitted to the hospital to underwrite the hospital costs of the uninsured.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    The only way this was found constitutional is because obama admitted he lied to the American people in the first place to get the law passed, Yes it is a NEW TAX!

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You bring me great enjoyment. I am absolutely loving this.
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