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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    You are going to send money to the guy who created RomneyCare?


    Yup, I'm gonna vote, campaign for, and send as much money as I can to the Romney campaign.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Did you know that if you got hit by someone with no auto insurance back then you WERE stuck for the whole bill...before no fault if an uninsured motorist totaled you car...you were SCREWED.
    I guess that's why car policies at the time had a "Uninsured motorist" coverage line item.....oh wait, they still do.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It always amazes me when people completely ignore the lead up to something horrendous.

    You watch, brother. Next year is gonna hurt.

    (edit: you do realize that 15,000 new IRS positions were defined in the Obamacare bill right?)


    Hey this is another plus for the progressives. Not only are the majority of taxpayers gonna foot the bill for the travesty, but Obama has created jobs too!

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Roberts really came out of left field, didn't he? I'm wondering if there isn't more to that decision than meets the eye. We'll see.

    Especially since the desenters threw everything, on this HC bill, out.

    Strange in deed.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    makes me suspicious that he started with his result and worked backwards. Krauthammer has an interesting piece on this.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Even then, now all politicians have to do is declare something a tax. Even *if* the intentions were to uphold the commerce clause dumb **** Roberts just green lighted a back door.

    This is a real scary part to this whole bill being found constitutional. What's next?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, and it is going broke. Good plan, let's all do that! See, the problem is that libs never seem to learn that what they want doesn't work, they just keep doing more of it.
    But if you bring them all under the umbrella of obamacare...and kill medicaid it would save us all money...

    Im playing devils advocate...the right wants to make this out to be the end of the country as we know it...and the left wants to make it out to be the savior of the country and I beliee the truth is right smack in the middle...ITS NOW THE LAW OF THE LAND lets all try to work it out to make it the best it can be...crying whining threatening isnt going to change a thing

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    What if your state doesn't participate?
    Then you'll be eligible for a subsidy on the health insurance exchange when it takes effect.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The blasť attitude about denying procedures needed for a decent quality of life to seniors is one of the things that scares me most about universal health care (and yes, I know that Obamacare is not UHC).
    And yet you're perfectly happy denying procedures needed for a decent quality of life to people who can't afford health insurance. Can we please drop the pretense that conservatives are standing up for the little guy by opposing health care for all?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm still screwed....
    The $5,950 out-of-pocket maximum is for someone earning more than 400% of the poverty line. It's considerably less than that for someone with your income; you can get an overview of the subsidies, premiums, and out-of-pocket costs here.

    At your income (if you have 4 people in your family), you'll be right on the cusp of getting free Medicaid and getting a large subsidy on the health exchange. If you do end up on the health exchange, your family's premiums will be capped at 3-4% of your family's income, and your out-of-pocket maximum will be $1,983.

    You don't need to worry about Obama imposing some extra tax on you; it's designed to go after free-riders who can afford health insurance but choose not to get it. If for some reason you still aren't able to afford health insurance even with the subsidies, you can at least get a financial hardship exemption from the mandate and you won't be any worse off.
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