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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    $650 a year in order to have guarunteed coverage for all pre-existing conditions, sounds like a good deal to me.
    People tend to forget how much it's going to cost them should they suddenly get kidney disease, cancer or the like, and not have insurance...and not just that, but the price Americans already pay when uninsured people get sick and cant pay their bills. Hospitals donate cases as 'charity' while other patients end up filing bankruptcy..both of which are added to everyone else's medical bills.
    (For more than financial reasons) it makes sense to require health insurance.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    From AARP emailer about Obamacare....

    Obamacare will make some drugs under the prescription program cost half of what they are now for seniors. Mamagrams will be copay and deductible free, now there is a copay and deductible for a yearly mamogram. and some other tests will be copay free for seniors. Other than that AARP says nothing will change. None of the affects me I will have my own personal medicare back up when I get on it in a few months.

    The mailer also said...kids can be covered by parents insurance to a much later age...No one can be refused for a pre existing condition and insurers cannot put a dollar figure limit on lifetime insurance coverage.
    AARP also states that it drains medicare to pay for obamacare is also false...I dont remember everything it said thats the basic drift

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    People tend to forget how much it's going to cost them should they suddenly get kidney disease, cancer or the like, and not have insurance...and not just that, but the price Americans already pay when uninsured people get sick and cant pay their bills. Hospitals donate cases as 'charity' while other patients end up filing bankruptcy..both of which are added to everyone else's medical bills.
    (For more than financial reasons) it makes sense to require health insurance.
    The "insurance companies make stuff free" argument.

    If someone gets kidney disease while having insurance, it still costs money, it's spread out to other insurancee's while the insurance company still maintains a profit.

    As a Liberal you should be for nationalized health care where big bad insurance corporations don't make a profit. In fact now big bad insurance corporations are going to be making more big bad corporation profits the exact same way car insurance companies got richer after car insurance was mandated.

    Insurance companies are like bankers and lawyers, and gambling casinos, they add no value to an economy, they don't produce anything, they just suck money away from people so old money gets older.

    If this is a slight of hand trick by Democrats to make Republicans want nationalize health care, HEY YOU WON! DO IT! YOU WIN! WE LOSE! NEED THERE TO BE MORE TO BE SAID?!!

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    The "insurance companies make stuff free" argument.

    If someone gets kidney disease while having insurance, it still costs money, it's spread out to other insurancee's while the insurance company still maintains a profit.

    As a Liberal you should be for nationalized health care where big bad insurance corporations don't make a profit. In fact now big bad insurance corporations are going to be making more big bad corporation profits the exact same way car insurance companies got richer after car insurance was mandated.
    Then the only ones that should have any complaints are the few that are going to have buy health insurance, for the rest it sounds like a win win for most everyone else using your facts

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Then the only ones that should have any complaints are the few that are going to have buy health insurance, for the rest it sounds like a win win for most everyone else using your facts
    You know car insurance was much cheaper before it was made a mandate.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    The "insurance companies make stuff free" argument.

    If someone gets kidney disease while having insurance, it still costs money, it's spread out to other insurancee's while the insurance company still maintains a profit.

    As a Liberal you should be for nationalized health care where big bad insurance corporations don't make a profit. In fact now big bad insurance corporations are going to be making more big bad corporation profits the exact same way car insurance companies got richer after car insurance was mandated.

    Insurance companies are like bankers and lawyers, and gambling casinos, they add no value to an economy, they don't produce anything, they just suck money away from people so old money gets older.
    How many not for profit health insurance companies do we have?

    At this point, since we dont have many options, I dont really give a **** if they're making more money , I have Lupus... it's expensive and I need coverage.
    I also have a girlfriend dying from Mesothelioma who was $50,000 in debt within her first four months of being diagnosed because she had no insurance. And no, companies dont just hand you money when you get Mesothelioma...its a long drawn out legal battle and in the meantime you have to sell your house, car and everything you've spent your life working for to pay your medical bills. Imagine having colon, breast, bladder or lung cancer with no monetary award coming and having no insurance. Unbelievable what an illness of such will do to you financially, which adds to the physical and emotional toll.

    As a liberal, I should be compassionate and logical.
    Silly poor people
    Tax cuts are for the rich!

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    From AARP emailer about Obamacare....

    Obamacare will make some drugs under the prescription program cost half of what they are now for seniors. Mamagrams will be copay and deductible free, now there is a copay and deductible for a yearly mamogram. and some other tests will be copay free for seniors. Other than that AARP says nothing will change. None of the affects me I will have my own personal medicare back up when I get on it in a few months.
    yeah, and that's why AARP had such a flood of seniors quitting in disgust.

    But gosh. Why would AARP choose to back something that will be bad for Seniors?

    Hint: They got about a Billion Reasons.

    The mailer also said...kids can be covered by parents insurance to a much later age...No one can be refused for a pre existing condition and insurers cannot put a dollar figure limit on lifetime insurance coverage.
    those things are true, and they are why Obamacare will cause insurance premiums to skyrocket beyond anything we have seen before.

    AARP also states that it drains medicare to pay for obamacare is also false...
    yeah? well the Chief Actuary for Medicare says that the AARP is full of ****. Obamacare takes a cool $557 Bn from Medicare over the next 10 years and a little under $3 Trillion over the next 20. you know how you are always railing against Ryan's cuts? Obama cuts Medicare by more than Ryan. Furthermore, Ryan wouldn't have cut your benefit by a penny. Obama starts cutting your benefit in 2014. Good luck getting healthcare down there in Florida when 74% of Doctors Stop Accepting Medicare Patients.

    ah,the irony. Obama is ****ing you over harder than a sideways pineapple..... and you come here and rail about the Tea Party. Because the AARP and your union tell you to.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    As a liberal, I should be compassionate and logical.
    Awesome, use your logic on this.

    Under the mandate, I get charged about $300 if I don't purchase health insurance.

    However,thanks to the fact that insurance has to take me no matter what, I am effectively covered - I can apply if I get hurt or sick and they have to take me and can't charge me any extra for my waiting.

    Health Insurance for a family of four is around $11,000.

    SO

    I can' pay $11,000 for coverage, or $300 for coverage.

    Which will I (and millions upon millions of Americans) choose?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    You know car insurance was much cheaper before it was made a mandate.
    Did you know that if you got hit by someone with no auto insurance back then you WERE stuck for the whole bill...before no fault if an uninsured motorist totaled you car...you were SCREWED.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    ou know car insurance was much cheaper before it was made a mandate.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Did you know that if you got hit by someone with no auto insurance back then you WERE stuck for the whole bill...before no fault if an uninsured motorist totaled you car...you were SCREWED.
    Policy By Anecdote. PBA

    Read what I said again.
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