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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That makes no logica sense that I can follow. Nothing's changed in that regard.
    How is it not logical? Now they HAVE to pay more which means they will have less money. Which means less money to do things that will get them ahead in life.

    Hmm...just made me wonder...how is this going to affect the economy? A good economy depends on spending. If people have less money to spend.......................

    The effects of Obamacare are getting bigger and bigger....
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If your family income is $26,000 and there are 4 people in your family, you will all be eligible for free Medicaid when the ACA takes effect (assuming your state participates in the expansion). It won't cost you a cent out of pocket.
    What if your state doesn't participate?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    What if your state doesn't participate?
    Then you should vote Democratic next time around.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Hell, $7k won't cover one night in the hospital.
    When my wife spent 4 nights in the hospital due to having our first child (complications arose) it cost 9k total (including having our child). Pretty sure that one night in a hospital doesn't cost 7k.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Morbidity is an issue.
    The blasť attitude about denying procedures needed for a decent quality of life to seniors is one of the things that scares me most about universal health care (and yes, I know that Obamacare is not UHC).

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I never wanted to have some one else's heart. Especially if they had to die. However that is most likely in my future.
    Doesn't mean its in my future.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Doesn't mean its in my future.
    Well then just charge on down that road.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The blasť attitude about denying procedures needed for a decent quality of life to seniors is one of the things that scares me most about universal health care (and yes, I know that Obamacare is not UHC).
    WTF/ What procedures are denied? The back surgery, knee replacement, gigs are thriving.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes. Anyone earning less than 133% of the poverty line will get free Medicaid, and anyone earning 133% to 400% of the poverty line will get subsidized insurance on a health insurance exchange.
    Health insurance exchange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I'm still screwed....

    Comparable Tiers of Plans

    Within the exchanges, insurance plans are to be offered in four tiers designated from lowest premium to highest premium: bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. The plans covered ranges from 60% to 90% of bills in increments of 10% for each plan. Proponents of the health reform believe that allowing comparable plans to compete for consumer business in one convenient location will drive prices down. Having a centralized location increases consumer knowledge of the market and allows for greater conformation to perfect competition. Each of these plans will also be limited in its out of pocket expenses at $5,950 for individuals and $11,900 for families[19].
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    WTF/ What procedures are denied? The back surgery, knee replacement, gigs are thriving.
    *sigh*

    Didn't you just admit that Medicaid denies claims based, in large part, on the age of the patient?

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