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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Dude .. what hurts is my foot and your ass after you posted that BS diatribe about DEATH PANELS when any notion of such was removed from the bill before Obama signed it.

    But g'head, keep pretending like that wasn't a good ass-kicking. Your persistence only makes me laugh harder.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The original discussion was paying for the uninsured.
    You're talking about Medicare taxes (and for those not following this vein, those are taxes on over-$200K filers).
    Hopefully no other explanation is needed.

    BTW, "google it" is lame.

    BTW, you were "full of it" (yes, you were right on the taxes, but they are Medicare taxes).
    no need to post that I was right.. I already knew I was.

    and no , I was not "full of it" ...read my post again, I specifically said "both medicare surtaxes".... apology accepted in advance.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Obamacare will - imo - sharply increase the average amount of money Americans spend on healthcare.

    Once again, most Americans prove that they simply do not understand how 'supply and demand' works.
    Well since you understand how supply and demand works, you should realize that Obama's healthcare plan would increase the supply to the medical industry. According to the law of supply and demand, this should reduce healthcare costs.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Folks making more than 133% of the Federal Poverty Level and you pay for insurance or pay the $600 a year tax. A single person making over $14,856 would have to pay for insurance (on $14,856, really?) or $600 tax. A married couple with no kids making over $20,122 a year would be required to pay for insurance for 2 or the tax for 2. A family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids making over $30,656 a year would have to buy insurance for 4 or pay double the tax for the adults.
    People earning up to 400% of the federal poverty line will be eligible for subsidies. And if for some reason those aren't sufficient, there is a financial hardship exemption in which case they won't have to pay it.

    I'm sure that'll make Obama and the Democrats popular in November.
    I'm not too worried about it.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    What is the incessant right wing fascination with the private aspect of other posters' personal lives?
    ironic, considering the topic

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    When millions of illegals flood your states medicaid program. Hold on to your wallet, your property taxes are taking off like a Poseidon missile.
    Great, yet more empty threats. The law prevents my property taxes from increasing more than 3% annually.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    no need to call it a giraffe..... calling a tax a tax is the honest thing to do.
    OK, then it's a tax. What now?

    politically speaking, it puts Obama in the position of having to answer for his ... untruthfulness.... and imposing a substantial tax increase .
    I'm sure he's just worried sick about that, after the horrible day he had today.

    there's a reason he argued that it's not a tax.. he didn't want to have to defend against a tax increase... so he called it a giraffe in hopes that folks won't know the difference.
    Obama is a smart dude.... and there is no way in hell I believe that he didn't know this was a tax from the outset.
    Yep, it's called political salesmanship. And Obama is what's called a politician.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I have no problem eating that this is the law of the land( it a good strict constitutionalist interpretation)... but you seem to have a big problem with the fact that this is a tax....
    do what you must to convince yourself it's not a tax, i'll stick with facts.

    wasn't it you that lied to me about liberals not supporting this mandate a while ago? .. and now here you are ... supporting it.
    Only one justice argued that it was a tax. 4 justices argued that it was a provision under the commerce clause. So the only argument you can make is that this is a composite logic that resulted in a majority decision.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Folks making more than 133% of the Federal Poverty Level and you pay for insurance or pay the $600 a year tax. A single person making over $14,856 would have to pay for insurance (on $14,856, really?) or $600 tax. A married couple with no kids making over $20,122 a year would be required to pay for insurance for 2 or the tax for 2. A family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids making over $30,656 a year would have to buy insurance for 4 or pay double the tax for the adults. I'm sure that'll make Obama and the Democrats popular in November.
    You left out the subsidies:

    • Medicaid eligibility will be bumped up to 133% of the American poverty threshold.
    • Sliding scale of subsidies for insurance purchase for Americans earning between 133% and 400% of the poverty threshold.


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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    People earning up to 400% of the federal poverty line will be eligible for subsidies. And if for some reason those aren't sufficient, there is a financial hardship exemption in which case they won't have to pay it.

    I'm not too worried about it.
    Adam T already tried that. A tax credit doesn't mean crap to anyone who can't afford it in the first place.
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