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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Really?? Obama is posting here???

    Which poster is he?

    ... well, you are right about cognitive dissonance, only it's not where you think it is.

    Wow, semantic word games with colors....It feels so 2nd grade.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nope, I have no problem with it being a tax, a penalty, a giraffe, or anything else you like, as long as it's the law of the land.

    I don't know what you're talking about. I never said liberals don't support the individual mandate, I said that most liberals would prefer to have a public option or single-payer instead.
    Folks making more than 133% of the Federal Poverty Level and you pay for insurance or pay the $600 a year tax. A single person making over $14,856 would have to pay for insurance (on $14,856, really?) or $600 tax. A married couple with no kids making over $20,122 a year would be required to pay for insurance for 2 or the tax for 2. A family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids making over $30,656 a year would have to buy insurance for 4 or pay double the tax for the adults. I'm sure that'll make Obama and the Democrats popular in November.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Sure ... uh-huh.

    Hey, if I collected a dollar every time someone told me to wait and see, then my taxes really would go up.


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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Jan. 1st, 2013 the tax increase on the rich takes effect.... 2 tax increases actually... both medicare surtaxes.
    a 3.8% increase on investment income.. and a .9% increase on earned income.

    google it if you think i'm full of it.
    The original discussion was paying for the uninsured.
    You're talking about Medicare taxes (and for those not following this vein, those are taxes on over-$200K filers).
    Hopefully no other explanation is needed.

    BTW, "google it" is lame.

    BTW, you were "full of it" (yes, you were right on the taxes, but they are Medicare taxes).

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride, in post #1211 View Post
    I thought when he was running Hussein Obama said no tax hikes for the middle class............Well who does he think is going to pay for the huge tax increase caused by Obama Care.......The biggest tax increase in the history of this country.............Remember this you people who are undecided when you go to the polls in November......

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nope, I have no problem with it being a tax, a penalty, a giraffe, or anything else you like, as long as it's the law of the land.



    I don't know what you're talking about. I never said liberals don't support the individual mandate, I said that most liberals would prefer to have a public option or single-payer instead.

    no need to call it a giraffe..... calling a tax a tax is the honest thing to do.

    politically speaking, it puts Obama in the position of having to answer for his ... untruthfulness.... and imposing a substantial tax increase .
    there's a reason he argued that it's not a tax.. he didn't want to have to defend against a tax increase... so he called it a giraffe in hopes that folks won't know the difference.
    Obama is a smart dude.... and there is no way in hell I believe that he didn't know this was a tax from the outset.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Ok, I'll have to work on proving you wrong. It's late and I don't feel like digging. But....how about the fact that SCOTUS declared, legally, that it was a new tax. How do you feel about that ****, partisano?

    edit: btw, I really could give a **** about the 15k new IRS agents...the new tax is rock solid.
    How in the hell do you have a new tax when it has been in the law all along?

    So will you admit your claim about the 15k IRS agents is not true?
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you on government assistance?
    What is the incessant right wing fascination with the private aspect of other posters' personal lives?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    Truth hurts doesn't it....I can always tell, when there is no retort other than your lame attempt at mockery.
    Dude .. what hurts is my foot and your ass after you posted that BS diatribe about DEATH PANELS when any notion of such was removed from the bill before Obama signed it.

    But g'head, keep pretending like that wasn't a good ass-kicking. Your persistence only makes me laugh harder.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Folks making more than 133% of the Federal Poverty Level and you pay for insurance or pay the $600 a year tax. A single person making over $14,856 would have to pay for insurance (on $14,856, really?) or $600 tax. A married couple with no kids making over $20,122 a year would be required to pay for insurance for 2 or the tax for 2. A family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids making over $30,656 a year would have to buy insurance for 4 or pay double the tax for the adults.

    So the last one, family of 4 making over $30K, sounds like a $2400 tax...That family now doesn't pay that in federal tax on the entire income....So Obama is doubling the taxes, net, for poor working families....
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