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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    your partisanship is pathetic, bro.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Don't listen to me.
    You really think I needed you to suggest that?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Obama.


    He claimed there was no new tax.
    So Obama is now a "far lefty here"? Damn, you should stop while you are behind, this is getting sad.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What claim is debunked? My claim that no new tax is involved? The individual mandate survived on the Congress' right to tax. Come on dude, you ain't that ignorant.
    The one I quoted you making in the post for god's sake. The one about the 15k IRS agents.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I'm just thouroughly amazed at the fact the the SCOTUS only approved the bill's constitutionality under congress' right to tax and yet the far lefties here want to still claim that it is not a tax.


    The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
    Um...it's pretty simple.

    It was a fine as envisioned by Obama and the Democrats.

    It was defined as a fine in the law.

    It was argued to be a fine by the lawyers who represented it.

    It was supported as a fine by the lower courts.

    It was made into a tax by the Supreme Court ruling.

    The whole, "Obama and the liberals said this wasn't a tax, but it is." argument is a losing one, because the Supreme Court ultimately made it into a tax through their interpretation.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You really think I needed you to suggest that?
    Not in the least...but you will see.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Who cares what it's called? The Supreme Court calls it a tax for legal reasons, Obama calls it a penalty for political salesmanship reasons. It really doesn't matter what you call it, it's now the law of the land with the Supreme Court's stamp of approval. Eat it.
    I have no problem eating that this is the law of the land( it a good strict constitutionalist interpretation)... but you seem to have a big problem with the fact that this is a tax....
    do what you must to convince yourself it's not a tax, i'll stick with facts.

    wasn't it you that lied to me about liberals not supporting this mandate a while ago? .. and now here you are ... supporting it.

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The one I quoted you making in the post for god's sake. The one about the 15k IRS agents.

    Ok, I'll have to work on proving you wrong. It's late and I don't feel like digging. But....how about the fact that SCOTUS declared, legally, that it was a new tax. How do you feel about that ****, partisano?

    edit: btw, I really could give a **** about the 15k new IRS agents...the new tax is rock solid.
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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I'm just thouroughly amazed at the fact the the SCOTUS only approved the bill's constitutionality under congress' right to tax and yet the far lefties here want to still claim that it is not a tax.


    The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
    WTF??

    All I said was ... my taxes have not gone up nor do I see them going up because of today's decision. You don't even know what boogie man you're fighting, do ya?

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    Re: SCOTUS LIVEBLOG - Obamacare Mandate Survives [W:125, 384, 635, 652, 758, 1205]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Obama.


    He claimed there was no new tax.


    I have never seen anyone lie more than this. Not even Dick Nixon.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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